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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Nov 21 11.53am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It was all foreseen but dismissed as "Project Fear" by those who put "independence" over the safety and security of everyone else.

Where are all the easy-peasy trade deals that countries outside the EU were lining up to sign, the USA being first in the queue?

How long before the pain starts to bite so hard that there is such a wave of discontent that the murmurs of the need to renegotiate the trade agreement becomes a deafening demand? How long after that will it be before the terms offered by the EU result in some kind of associate membership arrangement?

How long will posters on here go on saying we must all be patient? When you have dug a hole this deep, and you are up to your neck in s***e, you aren't going to get out on your own.

Johnson is on his way out. You can see whenever a politician's time is up. He is being squeezed from all sides, and the manoeuvring to replace him is already apparent. Who replaces him will be very interesting.

Have they run out of Chardonnay in Turo?

You are being apocalyptic considering yesterday the employment figures were at record high, supermarkets have said Christmas will be fine and Lidl announced they are paying their staff over 10 per hour.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Nov 2021 11.54am)

 


One more point

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Originally posted by Badger11

Have they run out of Chardonnay in Turo?

You are being apocalyptic considering yesterday the employment figures were at record high, supermarkets have said Christmas will be fine and Lidl announced they are paying their staff over 10 per hour.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Nov 2021 11.54am)


Yes but inflation is at a record high of 4.2%, so all these perceived pay 'rises' disappear into that inflation.

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290


Yes but inflation is at a record high of 4.2%, so all these perceived pay 'rises' disappear into that inflation.

Although inflation would be above 2% regardless, it's being massively distorted by the gas crisis at the moment. The prices went up another 15% yesterday. It's mental

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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Originally posted by cryrst

So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!

Classic

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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Originally posted by Orange1290


Yes but inflation is at a record high of 4.2%, so all these perceived pay 'rises' disappear into that inflation.

Not just here though. Eurozone inflation is at 4.1%.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not just here though. Eurozone inflation is at 4.1%.

Yes, most certainly but the feeling by some here is that increasing pay is a good thing when inflation is simply wiping that out.

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290

Yes, most certainly but the feeling by some here is that increasing pay is a good thing when inflation is simply wiping that out.

The sky didn't fall, did it Orange.

I know that must be hard for you.

 

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Lord Frost has been told the Northern Irish public do not back him in negotiations with the EU as he seeks to tear up the Brexit agreement.

In an interview on BBC Radio Ulster it was put to the Brexit minister that "poll after poll" showed the public backed keeping the protocol as it was.

In fact, why is this taking place, at all?

Big increases in NI and Ireland trade, the safety of the GF agreement, single market membership, NI is a solitary winner of brexit.


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Lord Frost has been told the Northern Irish public do not back him in negotiations with the EU as he seeks to tear up the Brexit agreement.

In an interview on BBC Radio Ulster it was put to the Brexit minister that "poll after poll" showed the public backed keeping the protocol as it was.

In fact, why is this taking place, at all?

Big increases in NI and Ireland trade, the safety of the GF agreement, single market membership, NI is a solitary winner of brexit.


Addendum:-

They should dump Sefcovic as well

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

Have they run out of Chardonnay in Turo?

You are being apocalyptic considering yesterday the employment figures were at record high, supermarkets have said Christmas will be fine and Lidl announced they are paying their staff over 10 per hour.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Nov 2021 11.54am)

Lidl have paid over 10 an hour for years Badger, I have commented on it before on here, nothing to do with brexit.But fair play to a European company, thats why workers rights under EU law were needed over here back in the day.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It was all foreseen but dismissed as "Project Fear" by those who put "independence" over the safety, security and prosperity of everyone else.

Where are all the easy-peasy trade deals that countries outside the EU were lining up to sign, the USA being first in the queue?

How long before the pain starts to bite so hard that there is such a wave of discontent that the murmurs of the need to renegotiate the trade agreement becomes a deafening demand? How long after that will it be before the terms offered by the EU result in some kind of associate membership arrangement?

How long will posters on here go on saying we must all be patient? When you have dug a hole this deep, and you are up to your neck in s***e, you aren't going to get out on your own.

Johnson is on his way out. You can see whenever a politician's time is up. He is being squeezed from all sides, and the manoeuvring to replace him is already apparent. Who replaces him will be very interesting.

By the way, the Shell "relocation" is a one off special situation unrelated to Brexit, and down to a major outside investor making demands about streamlining their structure. Only 7 jobs will actually relocate. So no comfort there for the Brexiteers.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Nov 2021 11.58am)


Thanks for clearing up the shell thing Wisbech, don"t let the only 7 jobs ruin the brexit party, 7 is 7, and thats good news, great news even to some here! The 6000 jobs going from here to Rotterdam pales in to insignificance compared to 7, yes seven, new jobs coming this way!

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

Have they run out of Chardonnay in Turo?

You are being apocalyptic considering yesterday the employment figures were at record high, supermarkets have said Christmas will be fine and Lidl announced they are paying their staff over 10 per hour.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Nov 2021 11.54am)

That surprised me as there are steep food price rises and shortages (Tesco no milk this week).

One of the many unemployment figures but 4.6% is nothing great and excludes many actual unemployed.

 

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