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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jan 21 8.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I'm not saying what the Queen said was faked.
Consider she was really unable to deliver ithe speech in a way we've been accustomed to and the bosses, as you called them, decided the populace aren't ready to hear why she can't deliver it, but need to show something all the same.
You're right it's probably dead easy to fake the fireworks. Apparently it happened in Seattle too.
With regard to the inauguration, I don't think it was entirely faked but if you know a little bit about continuity, like they do in the movies, then someone needs to be sacked! If you look closely enough there's mistakes a plenty.


Well, I think it's dark times ahead my man, and no needs to fake that one.

I'm off for a Fosters.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jan 2021 8.31pm)

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 25 Jan 21 9.54pm

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I'm delighted, BlueJay, that you're open enough to accept there may well be something at play here.

Well at least for the future yes. It's a very worrying technology. With most technologies I like to think that maybe there's at least a positive side to it, but whenever I hear of 'deep fakes' I just see a confusing future where nobody knows what to believe, who to trust and with a government using all of this to its advantage. You could say some countries are already like that to an extent (which social media stirring the pot), but it could get much worse. Living in the woods gets more attractive by the day .

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Well at least for the future yes. It's a very worrying technology. With most technologies I like to think that maybe there's at least a positive side to it, but whenever I hear of 'deep fakes' I just see a confusing future where nobody knows what to believe, who to trust and with a government using all of this to its advantage. You could say some countries are already like that to an extent (which social media stirring the pot), but it could get much worse. Living in the woods gets more attractive by the day .

I hear you, BlueJay.
A log cabin in the back of beyond, cooking on an open fire. And there's no signal! Imagine that. But then who could we argue with and get the upper hand on? Those pesky forest monkeys? Couldn't do it myself. Too much of a townie.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 Jan 21 11.06pm

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I hear you, BlueJay.
A log cabin in the back of beyond, cooking on an open fire. And there's no signal! Imagine that. But then who could we argue with and get the upper hand on? Those pesky forest monkeys? Couldn't do it myself. Too much of a townie.

Who am I kidding, I'd realise that Google Maps didn't work and stumble into a swamp. The modern world has stripped nature from us!

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 25 Jan 21 11.53pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Who am I kidding, I'd realise that Google Maps didn't work and stumble into a swamp. The modern world has stripped nature from us!

I think what is yet to reveal itself is that The City of London is or was the stinkiest swamp of them all with rancid rivulets flooding the Home Counties and beyond.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Jan 21 5.09am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I see antifa are still on the march! Was their aim trump out or politics out.
Lord of the flies anyone !

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 26 Jan 21 11.44am Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Just to prove I don't just engage with MAGA stuff, here's an impressive summary of the last four years. When I say impressive, I mean us Brits certainly know how to slag someone off. And yes, although it was difficult, I watched all 12 minutes of it.

[Link]

Didn't believe a word.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 26 Jan 21 12.06pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Deep fakes going forward are definitely a concern.

I think genuine broadcasts will probably come with some form of watermark.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jan 2021 7.42pm)

Deepfakes will be a whole new level of misinformation gone wild. If you think it's bad now, it'll be a thousand times worse once that technology becomes less specialised, and easily accessible. Have read loads on this over the last few years and no one seems to have a solution to it.

Once they're over the uncanny valley issue then that's it. It's close now but still noticeable, although for the audiences that this sort of thing will be manipulated for I'd say it's more or less there.

And, just like the internet itself, p*** seems to be the testing and development ground for it. And Hollywood, to a lesser extent.

BTW digital watermarks would most likely be just as easily faked. It may be that 'official' channels have to become end to end encrypted services not dissimilar to WhatsApp, but ultimately even those can be hacked or at the very least exploited/rerouted. If you want to earn the big bucks in the new world become a hacker, then convert and earn millions being paid to find weaknesses in digital systems. It's becoming less and less niche but can be extremely lucrative.

On a semi-humorous note the elon baby from 2019 is a highlight.

[Link]

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 26 Jan 21 12.10pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Just to prove I don't just engage with MAGA stuff, here's an impressive summary of the last four years. When I say impressive, I mean us Brits certainly know how to slag someone off. And yes, although it was difficult, I watched all 12 minutes of it.

[Link]

Didn't believe a word.

FYI – he's a 'comedian', I'd be worried if this was your main source of 'non-MAGA' information. No doubt a lot of it is flexed to enhance comedic effect.

Secondly for someone so 'open' 'Didn't believe a word' implies all of it to be untrue – sounds very predetermined and not particularly open to me. Openness works in all directions, see.

 


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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 26 Jan 21 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

FYI – he's a 'comedian', I'd be worried if this was your main source of 'non-MAGA' information. No doubt a lot of it is flexed to enhance comedic effect.

Secondly for someone so 'open' 'Didn't believe a word' implies all of it to be untrue – sounds very predetermined and not particularly open to me. Openness works in all directions, see.

Are you sure?
I thought all comedy had been banned.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jan 21 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Are you sure?
I thought all comedy had been banned.

Jonathan Pie is the old left, before identity politics.

I still don't agree with him but I know his politics isn't deliberately designed to hurt me...even if its direction is unknowingly responsible for today's left.

With Pie's politics actual 'healing' would be possible....but with the modern left that position is deluded.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jan 2021 1.00pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jan 21 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Deepfakes will be a whole new level of misinformation gone wild. If you think it's bad now, it'll be a thousand times worse once that technology becomes less specialised, and easily accessible. Have read loads on this over the last few years and no one seems to have a solution to it.

Once they're over the uncanny valley issue then that's it. It's close now but still noticeable, although for the audiences that this sort of thing will be manipulated for I'd say it's more or less there.

And, just like the internet itself, p*** seems to be the testing and development ground for it. And Hollywood, to a lesser extent.

BTW digital watermarks would most likely be just as easily faked. It may be that 'official' channels have to become end to end encrypted services not dissimilar to WhatsApp, but ultimately even those can be hacked or at the very least exploited/rerouted. If you want to earn the big bucks in the new world become a hacker, then convert and earn millions being paid to find weaknesses in digital systems. It's becoming less and less niche but can be extremely lucrative.

On a semi-humorous note the elon baby from 2019 is a highlight.

[Link]

Off hand I'd speculate that regularly changing encrypted broadcasts can work as a digital watermark. If they could work in conjunction with TV manufacturers and other mediums...but obviously that would be a weak point in the chain. I know that serious encryption can make breaking the code expensive and long and that it's a tit for tat race between creator and hacker....I suspect those at the cutting edge have been thinking about this for quite a while.

Hopefully there's a point to paying them the big bucks.

Mind you, outside of the technological industry the 'meritocracy matched to reward' system isn't as strong as it once was.....but I won't go there on that one, I'll just p1ss myself off.

Maybe it'll just come down to simple solutions like official broadcasts twittering what the background will be thirty seconds before release as a way of identifying fakes.

The other alternative is restricting usage of the technology. That has ethical implications I don't like and probably wouldn't work anyway.

It's an interesting issue, as with every step forward there's always the chance that you step on a nail.

 


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