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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Jan 21 2.49pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The left is the only answer, and we don't have it.

Attlee's great reforming government how we could do with that now.

Keynes economic policies stimulating the economy by putting money into pockets stimulating demand green building and energy programs with public employment and ownership.

The tories bust cronyism the 'chumocracy' the few not the many, why do people vote for it? It is rhubarb the covid shows just how useless it is.

In Europe next generation will have a future if the 750 billion re-generation is successful.

But all they will get here from Rishi is a free one-off burger and chips and years of unemployment, while the tories syphon off the city corruption into the hands of the idle rich.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

The left is the only answer, and we don't have it.

Attlee's great reforming government how we could do with that now.

Keynes economic policies stimulating the economy by putting money into pockets stimulating demand green building and energy programs with public employment and ownership.

The tories bust cronyism the 'chumocracy' the few not the many, why do people vote for it? It is rhubarb the covid shows just how useless it is.

In Europe next generation will have a future if the 750 billion re-generation is successful.

But all they will get here from Rishi is a free one-off burger and chips and years of unemployment, while the tories syphon off the city corruption into the hands of the idle rich.

'Attlee's great reforming government'.....Enabled by the Marshall plan....in other words American money.

'Keynes economic policies'.....which long term never actually worked.

Indeed, the debt the world is in has been created by Keynesian economics and that's what is going to lead to real suffering....not Indian millionaire chancellors. .

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2021 5.53pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jan 21 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Attlee's great reforming government'.....Enabled by the Marshall plan....in other words American money.

'Keynes economic policies'.....which long term never actually worked.

Indeed, the debt the world is in has been created by Keynesian economics and that's what is going to lead to real suffering....not Indian millionaire chancellors. .

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2021 5.53pm)

Attlee was a man of principle sadly lacking amongst today's politicians of all parties.

Reading his biography back in the 1950's he complained about the current crop of new MPs as professional politicians only interested in themselves. well he got that one right.

His government did a lot of good around health and social services but blew it by nationalising the "commanding heights of the economy" as Keyne's put it.

 


One more point

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Jan 21 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Attlee was a man of principle sadly lacking amongst today's politicians of all parties.

Reading his biography back in the 1950's he complained about the current crop of new MPs as professional politicians only interested in themselves. well he got that one right.

His government did a lot of good around health and social services but blew it by nationalising the "commanding heights of the economy" as Keyne's put it.

Being men of means there were less careerists I suppose.

Attlee's National health service was certainly a better designed model than what it is today....an international health service propped up by cheaper gained foreign nurses and Doctors.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 28 Jan 21 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Being men of means there were less careerists I suppose.

Mhm. Not so sure. Politics was always primarily about careerism and that special sauce that meant you were willing to put yourself up for the slings and arrows. Lets be honest, the overwhelming majority of us not.

I guess the bigger issue is that if somebody has the desire to be an MP it usually means they are probably far more likely to lean towards the narcissistic and bordering on the verge of several personality disorders.

I believe that is more prevalent on the Left but I also am more than willing to concede that this POV is massively coloured by my own political leanings. With Boris Johnson no doubt one of the worst examples of this, immediately proving a huge and glaring exception to that rule.

For me, the greatest recent study of the modern western politician was the Netflix remake of 'House of Cards', series 1-3 (the rest are not worthy of consideration). And yes I know, we are not meant to watch it anymore but seriously, it is an incredible work of fiction. Genius writing and acting. I confess that politicians both horrify and fascinate me because we place so much power into these peoples hands because somebody has to do the job but an inclination to do such a task must always be a massive warning of wariness about such people.

Personally, I tend to think that a benevolent dictatorship is by far the best system of Governance but we are stuck with what we have for the time being.

 


Now on GAB @Matov. Come and help build something.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 21 9.09pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Attlee's great reforming government'.....Enabled by the Marshall plan....in other words American money.

'Keynes economic policies'.....which long term never actually worked.

Indeed, the debt the world is in has been created by Keynesian economics and that's what is going to lead to real suffering....not Indian millionaire chancellors. .

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2021 5.53pm)

Billionaire chancellors. Ricki is worth £2000 million-2 billion, we are all in it together!

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Jan 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Billionaire chancellors. Ricki is worth £2000 million-2 billion, we are all in it together!

Would you rather a chancellor who was skint?

What sort of message would that send out?

I take it that you donít like the government, but sometimes I donít think you even know why you do when you post sh@te like that.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 21 9.32pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Would you rather a chancellor who was skint?

What sort of message would that send out?

I take it that you donít like the government, but sometimes I donít think you even know why you do when you post sh@te like that.

That last sentance don"t make sense, could be called shyte, just saying! Are you embarassed your chancellor, worth £2000 million, made more money from the dodgy ppe cronyism? You should be, but just doff your cap to him tom, it"s because of people like you the working man is always going to be kept down!

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Jan 21 9.39pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

That last sentance don"t make sense, could be called shyte, just saying! Are you embarassed your chancellor, worth £2000 million, made more money from the dodgy ppe cronyism? You should be, but just doff your cap to him tom, it"s because of people like you the working man is always going to be kept down!

First of all what do you mean Ďyour chancellorí? Heís your chancellor as much as mine, and for the record, Iím no Tory.

Second point, what the f@ck does Ďpeople like youí mean?

You are a good poster, Croydon Proud, and I didnít mean my post to sound aggressive as it may have done, but it just gets boring, one side constantly attacking the other. Iím sure you can think of many things the government have been w@nk at but when you just start posting stuff about how wealthy the chancellor is it just comes across aspathetic. For the record, most of his wealth comes from marrying the daughter of a billionaire. Good luck to him I say!

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (28 Jan 2021 9.41pm)

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 21 9.44pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

First of all what do you mean Ďyour chancellorí? Heís your chancellor as much as mine, and for the record, Iím no Tory.

Second point, what the f@ck does Ďpeople like youí mean?

You are a good poster, Croydon Proud, and I didnít mean my post to sound aggressive as it may have done, but it just gets boring, one side constantly attacking the other. Iím sure you can think of many things the government have been w@nk at but when you just start posting stuff about how wealthy the chancellor is it just comes across aspathetic. For the record, most of his wealth comes from marrying the daughter of a billionaire. Good luck to him I say!

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (28 Jan 2021 9.41pm)


No problem tom, yeah, i know he married in to the billions, but he still made money from the ppe scandal, and just don"t seem right to me, but you are right, we do just attack the opposite opinions on here, been saying it for a while, its only actually interesting when one lefty, sticks up for the right, or vice versa, but rarely happens.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Jan 21 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

First of all what do you mean Ďyour chancellorí? Heís your chancellor as much as mine, and for the record, Iím no Tory.

Second point, what the f@ck does Ďpeople like youí mean?

You are a good poster, Croydon Proud, and I didnít mean my post to sound aggressive as it may have done, but it just gets boring, one side constantly attacking the other. Iím sure you can think of many things the government have been w@nk at but when you just start posting stuff about how wealthy the chancellor is it just comes across aspathetic. For the record, most of his wealth comes from marrying the daughter of a billionaire. Good luck to him I say!

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (28 Jan 2021 9.41pm)

Good luck indeed. If she owned a pub sheíd be the perfect woman.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Jan 21 10.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Attlee's great reforming government'.....Enabled by the Marshall plan....in other words American money.

'Keynes economic policies'.....which long term never actually worked.

Indeed, the debt the world is in has been created by Keynesian economics and that's what is going to lead to real suffering....not Indian millionaire chancellors. .

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2021 5.53pm)

I believe Attlee kept the multi billion pound independent nuclear deterent secret from everyone except the Soviets. So that was good.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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