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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 18 Mar 21 2.18pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You can't state something like that without anything to back it up.

Not sure about if they regret it, but many see it as a silver bullet to end all their problems.

Then discover it's not.

It seems like both sides of this argument have firmly held views, but no one debating it really knows anyone whose effected by it.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 18 Mar 21 6.03pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Performing sex change operations on kids below the age of 18 is simply child abuse.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Mar 21 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Performing sex change operations on kids below the age of 18 is simply child abuse.

Agreed, this times ten.

Conservatism also needs to be criticised because the pushback on the direction of travel has been.....weak to say the least.

If you take out the religious right many people on the right have abandoned much of social conservativism for a quiet life.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Mar 21 6.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You can't state something like that without anything to back it up.

Are you kidding Dan?

That's most of your posts!

 


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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 18 Mar 21 10.16pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Performing sex change operations on kids below the age of 18 is simply child abuse.

Completely agree.

As for adults,

For transmen lot of the time the root cause seems to not be a desire to be a man, but a resentment of being a woman.

For transwomen, it seems like they want act a certain way, which often seems patronising towards women.

You can't force people to perceive you the way you want to be perceived. So changing your gender identity my not resolve the fundamental internal causes of unhappiness, and will not have the desired external impact either.

Extensive counselling is required to get to the core of issues and to prepare people for realities of living a transgender life.

There's a lot of important factors getting shut out of the debate, mainly because activist just start shouting transphobe at anyone who questions it.

It's like picking a fight with the church of scientology.

It seems like a lot of peoples opposition to gender reassignment is based on compassion for individuals and would never want any harm to come to anyone. It seems like most of the activist just spout off a poorly considered ideology and are frothing at the mouth to call people out for being intolerant so they can boast to their echo chamber. (DanH isn't included in the group, he seems to want to make the world a nicer place).

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 19 Mar 21 7.00am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Personally, I am all in favour of the Left championing this Trans nonsense as much as they want. Once we have the farce of the next Olympics on the worlds TV screens then it will be seen for the horrendous mockery of human achievement it actually is.


And it will destroy the Labour party. Absolutely wipe them out, once and for all. It is the nadir of this 'woke' nonsense. Once people realise the implications of it then it's over and done with.


 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Mar 21 7.52am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Did some reading yesterday it is difficult to find stuff that is not bias one way or the other. The only conclusion I did draw was that people who transition and have extensive counselling both before and after the treatment are more likely to be okay with their new gender.

Those that don't undergo this prolonged counselling are almost certainly to have problems and regrets. The counselling afterwards is as important as the counselling before.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Mar 2021 7.53am)

 


One more point

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 19 Mar 21 8.35am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Did some reading yesterday it is difficult to find stuff that is not bias one way or the other. The only conclusion I did draw was that people who transition and have extensive counselling both before and after the treatment are more likely to be okay with their new gender.

Those that don't undergo this prolonged counselling are almost certainly to have problems and regrets. The counselling afterwards is as important as the counselling before.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Mar 2021 7.53am)

The issue is the numbers. Absolutely minuscule. Yet we are meant to turn our entire notion of gender upside down? No. The wider agenda here is an attack on our entire civilisation. To make us question everything. To doubt ourselves constantly. And drive us towards gazing more and more adoringly on Big Brother. The Nanny State. Because after all, they do know best.

The very same people who have championed curfews for all men after 6.00pm are the same ones who think it is perfectly right for a bloke to wake up, decide he is a woman after all, and then follow them into public toilets and changing rooms.

Utter insanity on every conceivable level.

Do some people feel trapped in the wrong body? Then clearly yes. But we already have procedures in place to deal with that. For ADULTS to make that decision. Not kids.

This Trans stuff is all about undermining the very basics of what makes humanity great.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 19 Mar 21 12.05pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Personally, I am all in favour of the Left championing this Trans nonsense as much as they want. Once we have the farce of the next Olympics on the worlds TV screens then it will be seen for the horrendous mockery of human achievement it actually is.


And it will destroy the Labour party. Absolutely wipe them out, once and for all. It is the nadir of this 'woke' nonsense. Once people realise the implications of it then it's over and done with.


That's the thing with Labour and IDpol. Just when you think they've hit the nadir, they'll find, somehow, more ground dig even deeper.

I won't give the Tories a free pass on this s*** either. It's basically Labour policy, just slightly slower.

 

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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

That's the thing with Labour and IDpol. Just when you think they've hit the nadir, they'll find, somehow, more ground dig even deeper.

I won't give the Tories a free pass on this s*** either. It's basically Labour policy, just slightly slower.

I feel a uturn coming and not before time.
Need to get labour and the left generally to own this total insult to the human race.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 20 Mar 21 8.33pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Been reading some analysis of the forthcoming Hartlepool by-election with Labour already starting to manage expectations.

Hartlepool. A constituency where Labour should be weighing their vote, not counting it. And yet now, even with Brexit done and dusted, it is now considered potentially in play. After over a decade of Tory national control.

Personally, I cannot see them losing it but seriously, how far have they fallen for it not to be a bygone conclusion?

And if they do fail to hold it...then it's over for Labour. They would need to seriously take a look at why they even exist anymore.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 21 Mar 21 12.53am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Nice use of a racial stereotype on someone of Indian heritage.

You really do post some bollocks

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

On this topic I think we are agreed.

As far as I'm concerned, if he can't make a decent Chicken Masala he ain't worth two bob.

He's spent the earth since he's come in and when that interest rate starts going up he'll be out of it swanning himself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jan 2021 10.39pm)

 


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