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 Stirlingsays  01 Jan 23 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
As on the other thread You have been manipulated by self-serving, and financially lucrative, American interest groups. They set this up to interfere with UK politics, in particular the passing of the abortion amendment within the Public Order Bill Well done If you wish to believe in fantasy you are at liberty to. For your information I didn't really have much of a view on abortion until my partner first became pregnant. I hadn't really considered the topic before then. If you have an issue with American interest groups lobbying for their opinions to be law I suggest that it's a far more funded and pervasive reality on the left than the right.....They have succeeded in sexual politics and in speech censorship. Funny....I don't remember you complaining about either on those scores.
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| Mapletree Croydon 01 Jan 23 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If you wish to believe in fantasy you are at liberty to. For your information I didn't really have much of a view on abortion until my partner first became pregnant. I hadn't really considered the topic before then. If you have an issue with American interest groups lobbying for their opinions to be law I suggest that it's a far more funded and pervasive reality on the left than the right.....They have succeeded in sexual politics and in speech censorship. Funny....I don't remember you complaining about either on those scores. How many times, it's three dots. You can suggest away, proof may be useful... In any case, I don't approve whatever the issue or motive. The Americans tend to view everything through a financial rationale and that leads to a perversion of morality. Now, remind me, do you think that Isabel set up the poor copper? Why did this happen when it did? How come the US media leaped on it so quickly? Why did Twitter have to apologise? Also, what would you do about Child Sex Abuse were you in a position to do anything other than rant? Remember, most paedophiles are not child sex abusers. Most child sex abusers aren't paedophiles. Please process that before answering.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jan 23 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
How many times, it's three dots. You can suggest away, proof may be useful... In any case, I don't approve whatever the issue or motive. The Americans tend to view everything through a financial rationale and that leads to a perversion of morality. Now, remind me, do you think that Isabel set up the poor copper? Why did this happen when it did? How come the US media leaped on it so quickly? Why did Twitter have to apologise? Also, what would you do about Child Sex Abuse were you in a position to do anything other than rant? Remember, most paedophiles are not child sex abusers. Most child sex abusers aren't paedophiles. Please process that before answering. What can I say, I'm a dot extremist..... With respect Maple, that's a lot of questions. I've written my take on the abortion arrest on its thread. I have no opinion on your conspiracy theory: who knows. Twitter apologised? Also I wasn't aware that I'm expected to provide policies on child sex abuse. Leftists continually moan on here all the time yet when I do it I'm asked to write manifestos.....I'll remind you I'm the ex teacher here. Be careful or I'll give you detention! If I can be bothered to write something I will, but this is a bit of a busy period.
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| Mapletree Croydon 01 Jan 23 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What can I say, I'm a dot extremist..... With respect Maple, that's a lot of questions. I've written my take on the abortion arrest on its thread. I have no opinion on your conspiracy theory: who knows. Twitter apologised? Also I wasn't aware that I'm expected to provide policies on child sex abuse. Leftists continually moan on here all the time yet when I do it I'm asked to write manifestos.....I'll remind you I'm the ex teacher here. Be careful or I'll give you detention! If I can be bothered to write something I will, but this is a bit of a busy period. You are one of the ex teachers here. I too was a teacher. Thomas Bennett and Ashburton. I didn't actually ask for policies, simply opinion. This is from the Daily Express: Misinformation about why Isabel Vaughan Spruce, 45, was arrested spread around social media after Mary Margaret Olohan, a senior reporter for the US publication The Daily Signal, shared the video of the arrest and falsely claimed it was for “silent praying”. Twitter was forced to attach a corrective statement to Ms Olohan’s post after it went viral.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jan 23 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are one of the ex teachers here. I too was a teacher. Thomas Bennett and Ashburton. I didn't actually ask for policies, simply opinion. This is from the Daily Express: Misinformation about why Isabel Vaughan Spruce, 45, was arrested spread around social media after Mary Margaret Olohan, a senior reporter for the US publication The Daily Signal, shared the video of the arrest and falsely claimed it was for “silent praying”. Twitter was forced to attach a corrective statement to Ms Olohan’s post after it went viral. Was that as a fully qualified teacher? Opinions? Well, I've already given a couple, I'm against same sex adoption and I'm against officially sponsored surrogacy....I suppose other views are I'm against the sexualisation of children and sex education should be reduced to only biology information....no politics and cultural agendas. As for the reason for the arrest I've seen the Police change the reason for an arrest after the fact from what's apparent on a video. For example, I remember that happening with Tommy Robinson. So I'm not so sure as to the honesty there but then again I have no strong opinion on it. Unfortunately the Police have been known to lie and they are interested in media far more than they should be....In my view anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 6.32pm)
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| georgenorman 01 Jan 23 6.28pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Was that as a fully qualified teacher? Opinions? Well, I've already given a couple, I'm against same sex adoption and I'm against officially sponsored surrogacy. As for the reason for the arrest I've seen the Police change the reason for an arrest after the fact from what's apparent on a video. For example, I remember that happening with Tommy Robinson. So I'm not so sure as to the honesty there but then again I have no strong opinion on it. Unfortunately the Police have been known to lie and they are interested in media far more than they should be....In my view anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 6.27pm) You mean children came under of the influence of Mapletree? God help us.
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cryrst  The garden of England 01 Jan 23 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are one of the ex teachers here. I too was a teacher. Thomas Bennett and Ashburton. I didn't actually ask for policies, simply opinion. This is from the Daily Express: Misinformation about why Isabel Vaughan Spruce, 45, was arrested spread around social media after Mary Margaret Olohan, a senior reporter for the US publication The Daily Signal, shared the video of the arrest and falsely claimed it was for “silent praying”. Twitter was forced to attach a corrective statement to Ms Olohan’s post after it went viral. Ashburton! What years
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jan 23 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You mean children came under of the influence of Mapletree? God help us. I couldn't possibly comment. I quite like Maple despite his love of granite. He has a terrible line in winter coats though.....I hear he regularly gets soaked to the skin everytime it drizzles.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jan 23 8.12pm |
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To further argue against the use of authority of 'experts' as a tool to close down debate or suggest that credentials should automatically be regarded as the last word on something I present Martha C. Nussbaum. Martha Nussbaum is the Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago, with appointments in the Law School and the Philosophy Department. Here is Martha's latest article on how humanity must find new ways to act toward animals in a world dominated everywhere by human power and activity. To quote an analysis of the article: 'Nussbaum suggests that we need to think seriously about curbing predation in nature. It disturbs her that animals eat other animals: this is not how things ought to be. We must be careful in what we try to do to correct this morally bad state of affairs, since through lack of knowledge, we may worsen things; but this is no excuse to let matters slide. To be clear, she is not just proposing that we should make sure that lions can’t get into the deer cage at the zoo; she is talking about the possibility of getting animals in the wild to cease to kill and eat each other. Her idea illustrates and extends a besetting sin of contemporary moral and political philosophy, its idle utopianism. The ordinary circumstances of the human condition are rejected, and philosophers devise fantastic schemes to remake the social and political world to their own liking.' Again, just quoting authority is a fallacy. Instead of letters after someone's name what matters are the results that come from their work. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 8.13pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 01 Jan 23 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
To further argue against the use of authority of 'experts' as a tool to close down debate or suggest that credentials should automatically be regarded as the last word on something I present Martha C. Nussbaum. Martha Nussbaum is the Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago, with appointments in the Law School and the Philosophy Department. Here is Martha's latest article on how humanity must find new ways to act toward animals in a world dominated everywhere by human power and activity. To quote an analysis of the article: 'Nussbaum suggests that we need to think seriously about curbing predation in nature. It disturbs her that animals eat other animals: this is not how things ought to be. We must be careful in what we try to do to correct this morally bad state of affairs, since through lack of knowledge, we may worsen things; but this is no excuse to let matters slide. To be clear, she is not just proposing that we should make sure that lions can’t get into the deer cage at the zoo; she is talking about the possibility of getting animals in the wild to cease to kill and eat each other. Her idea illustrates and extends a besetting sin of contemporary moral and political philosophy, its idle utopianism. The ordinary circumstances of the human condition are rejected, and philosophers devise fantastic schemes to remake the social and political world to their own liking.' Again, just quoting authority is a fallacy. Instead of letters after someone's name what matters are the results that come from their work. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 8.13pm) Reminds me of the candidates in Miss Universe praying for World Peace . Most wars are caused by men with a high sex drive. Chasing after fit birds. From the yamnaya to Vladimir putin today.....fellas who learned that pretty girls will normally reject a nobody. So Vladimir putting wanted to be a somebody. Gengis Khan, Henry viii, Hitler....all Freudian sexual frustration , all the wars in the world. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Jan 2023 8.44pm)
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jan 23 9.43pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Reminds me of the candidates in Miss Universe praying for World Peace . Most wars are caused by men with a high sex drive. Chasing after fit birds. From the yamnaya to Vladimir putin today.....fellas who learned that pretty girls will normally reject a nobody. So Vladimir putting wanted to be a somebody. Gengis Khan, Henry viii, Hitler....all Freudian sexual frustration , all the wars in the world. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Jan 2023 8.44pm) And there's me thinking it's about resources and identity. In my view war is one condition of man. It isn't always about killing an opponent but a natural state of being to oppose a threat. It's why de-escalation should always be the preferred course of action if possible. Given reasonable dialogue war is usually avoidable. Everyone should have a hill to die on, having multiple hills to die on can be exhausting and a little wearing on the knees.
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| Mapletree Croydon 01 Jan 23 11.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Was that as a fully qualified teacher? Opinions? Well, I've already given a couple, I'm against same sex adoption and I'm against officially sponsored surrogacy....I suppose other views are I'm against the sexualisation of children and sex education should be reduced to only biology information....no politics and cultural agendas. As for the reason for the arrest I've seen the Police change the reason for an arrest after the fact from what's apparent on a video. For example, I remember that happening with Tommy Robinson. So I'm not so sure as to the honesty there but then again I have no strong opinion on it. Unfortunately the Police have been known to lie and they are interested in media far more than they should be....In my view anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 6.32pm) Did they change the video then? You never directly answer questions Yes, it was the first of my postgraduate qualifications.
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