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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Jan 23 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

To further argue against the use of authority of 'experts' as a tool to close down debate or suggest that credentials should automatically be regarded as the last word on something I present Martha C. Nussbaum.

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Martha Nussbaum is the Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago, with appointments in the Law School and the Philosophy Department.

Here is Martha's latest article on how humanity must find new ways to act toward animals in a world dominated everywhere by human power and activity.

To quote an analysis of the article:

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'Nussbaum suggests that we need to think seriously about curbing predation in nature. It disturbs her that animals eat other animals: this is not how things ought to be. We must be careful in what we try to do to correct this morally bad state of affairs, since through lack of knowledge, we may worsen things; but this is no excuse to let matters slide.

To be clear, she is not just proposing that we should make sure that lions can’t get into the deer cage at the zoo; she is talking about the possibility of getting animals in the wild to cease to kill and eat each other. Her idea illustrates and extends a besetting sin of contemporary moral and political philosophy, its idle utopianism. The ordinary circumstances of the human condition are rejected, and philosophers devise fantastic schemes to remake the social and political world to their own liking.'

Again, just quoting authority is a fallacy. Instead of letters after someone's name what matters are the results that come from their work.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jan 2023 8.13pm)

So are you claiming she is THE authority? Have you heard of inter subjectivity

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 02 Jan 23 12.35am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Did they change the video then?

You never directly answer questions

Yes, it was the first of my postgraduate qualifications.

It's not PMQs is it?

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2023 5.07am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 02 Jan 23 12.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

So are you claiming she is THE authority? Have you heard of inter subjectivity

Stop trying to wiggle out of the point.

No, but I've heard of Inner Space and it wasn't one of Dennis Quaid's better performances.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2023 12.38am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 02 Jan 23 1.20am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Was this the point you was trying to make Maple?....Errrrr.

 


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MrWhyNot Flag 02 Jan 23 3.11am

Originally posted by georgenorman

You mean children came under of the influence of Mapletree? God help us.

Hmmmm

 

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MrWhyNot Flag 02 Jan 23 3.41am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Was this the point you was trying to make Maple?....Errrrr.

Quite the pair of posts these.

 

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MrWhyNot Flag 02 Jan 23 2.47pm

An apt demonstration of how farcically and disingenuously political this issue has become. But let's not be too tough on Dave.. I mean at least he's not on 'the left' and is a social conservative so the kids are safe. Oh wait..


Edited by MrWhyNot (02 Jan 2023 4.34pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jan 23 3.16pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Was this the point you was trying to make Maple?....Errrrr.

Probably it is.

This person appears to be a paedophile. He also appears not to be a Child Sexual Abuser. Maybe, however, he is a danger. He certainly seems to be open and unapologetic about the incredibly horrible notion that 2 to 8 year old girls are sexually attractive.

I believe this is the kind of individual that the EU initiative is aiming to find and try to control.

Where the hell do you get such stuff? Goodness knows what cess pits you inhabit online.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jan 23 3.17pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by MrWhyNot

Hmmmm

Ah. I just see what you have read into this.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jan 23 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not PMQs is it?

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2023 5.07am)

That is exactly my point. As it isn't PMQs, why not directly answer?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jan 23 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Stop trying to wiggle out of the point.

No, but I've heard of Inner Space and it wasn't one of Dennis Quaid's better performances.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2023 12.38am)

The point is that scientists present their views and others critique them. I like to read a cross-section of views and then determine for myself which is most convincing. Unlike you who simply absorbs opinion from American online influencers without reading around the topics. Your posts of videos are always worthless, almost nobody opens the videos as not many people do what you do.

I don't have any dog in this fight, I have never read this lady and don't have the time to read her original writings at the moment.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Jan 23 7.08pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Probably it is.

This person appears to be a paedophile. He also appears not to be a Child Sexual Abuser. Maybe, however, he is a danger. He certainly seems to be open and unapologetic about the incredibly horrible notion that 2 to 8 year old girls are sexually attractive.

I believe this is the kind of individual that the EU initiative is aiming to find and try to control.

Where the hell do you get such stuff? Goodness knows what cess pits you inhabit online.

He may never actually abuse these girl kids but I’m sure would pull his own dick off whilst watching people who do. Still at least he’s not the actual abuser eh!

 

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