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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 22 10.26am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Only if itís the books!

All the city boys do enough of that....would have to build loads more prisons.

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 31 Jan 22 10.35am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend


The allegations are horrific and do appear damning against Greenwood, but this is trial by Social media and is wrong on every level.

Half of all Social Media content is lies, more is misleading and the rest is opinionated spin. This should not be forgotten. The Police, with the necessary experience, access and means will investigate this, and it should be the courts judgement who is guilty of what.


 


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BlueJay Flag UK 31 Jan 22 10.47am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


The allegations are horrific and do appear damning against Greenwood, but this is trial by Social media and is wrong on every level.

Half of all Social Media content is lies, more is misleading and the rest is opinionated spin. This should not be forgotten. The Police, with the necessary experience, access and means will investigate this, and it should be the courts judgement who is guilty of what.

I agree it's important to be careful in these matters. As in referring to how things may appear based on what is out there rather than conclusively claim we know precisely what happened. The trouble he has is that clearly in society acting this way towards your partner is entirely unacceptable and the combination of images and shocking audio appear very damning. You're right that a court of law ultimately decides on these matters, but at the same time when deeply troubling content like this is released on the account of the person it appears to have happened to, it's unrealistic to expect people not to comment.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jan 22 10.51am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I don't know why this needed to be posted on Instagram, rather than reported to the police. If guilty, career over.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 11.50am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I don't know why this needed to be posted on Instagram, rather than reported to the police. If guilty, career over.

It's so hard to get the police to take this stuff seriously, particularly when it's your partner - going public is a far more effective way for her to get out of the relationship given Greenwood's profile, and clearly it's worked.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 11.54am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


The allegations are horrific and do appear damning against Greenwood, but this is trial by Social media and is wrong on every level.

Half of all Social Media content is lies, more is misleading and the rest is opinionated spin. This should not be forgotten. The Police, with the necessary experience, access and means will investigate this, and it should be the courts judgement who is guilty of what.


You'd struggle to come up with any reasonable explanation for the accusation, audio and images beyond it being exactly what it looks and sounds like - I get your overarching point, but in this case it feels a bit like Boris' 'wait for the report' when everyone knows the reality.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 31 Jan 22 12.06pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It's so hard to get the police to take this stuff seriously, particularly when it's your partner - going public is a far more effective way for her to get out of the relationship given Greenwood's profile, and clearly it's worked.

It doesn't sound like she had an awful lot of support around her. Isn't it the case that she's now rowing back and saying she didn't even post the images and audio. She comes across as scared, and even if her act was a brief moment of bravery I'm pleased she was able to muster that.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 22 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You'd struggle to come up with any reasonable explanation for the accusation, audio and images beyond it being exactly what it looks and sounds like - I get your overarching point, but in this case it feels a bit like Boris' 'wait for the report' when everyone knows the reality.

The facts must be established first.

There are statements from the father that don't make much sense in relation to the media release.....and no personally I don't view Instagram as a valid method to start the process.

I get the disgust and that audio is indeed disgusting and images as well, if they pan out....at the very least Greenwood has a case to answer and at the worst jail time for rape. However, we are not lynch mobs and do not take someone's liberty away without due and proper process that ensures that justice isn't only seen to be done....but actually done.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jan 2022 12.11pm)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Jan 22 12.13pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Romford-Eagle


Stirling should be there too

Perhaps we should ditch BLM...

Prison is a very harsh punishment for Foot-Stamping and Diving.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Jan 22 12.15pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If guilty, career over.

did Marlon King continue to get lucrative contracts even after it was evident he was a 'wrong un' ?

Having a criminal record should de-bar anybody from Professional Football.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 22 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

did Marlon King continue to get lucrative contracts even after it was evident he was a 'wrong un' ?

Having a criminal record should de-bar anybody from Professional Football.

If crimes barred someone from being rich the world would look very different....but it doesn't.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 22 12.31pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The facts must be established first.

There are statements from the father that don't make much sense in relation to the media release.....and no personally I don't view Instagram as a valid method to start the process.

I get the disgust and that audio is indeed disgusting and images as well, if they pan out....at the very least Greenwood has a case to answer and at the worst jail time for rape. However, we are not lynch mobs and do not take someone's liberty away without due and proper process that ensures that justice isn't only seen to be done....but actually done.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jan 2022 12.11pm)

I don't agree - there are no circumstances where that audio is acceptable. It sounds just like him, she uses his name, they have a known history together... so regardless of the rest, I can be 99% confident that is him I'm listening to, and I can therefore be 100% confident that he's an utter scumbag. I don't need a load of bluster from expensive lawyers to be sure of that.

You don't need to view Instagram as valid - the victim of the abuse decided it was her best course of action, and it worked. It is these type of narratives on how you're supposed to react which really damage victim's credibility. I also think your first reaction being to question whether the blood is real is unhelpful, to put it politely.

Given how hard it is for women to get a conviction on these types of charges, I do not at all agree that the court trial is when we can decide how to react - it is essentially fact that Ronaldo has raped someone, and yet he is drowned in adoration every week.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (31 Jan 2022 12.34pm)

 

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