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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Feb 22 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by mezzer
The Russian entry this year is probably a remake of Boom Bang A Bang. Maybe the UK will no longer be the bad guy though. Ukraine will give UK top marks at least. Russia nil points all round, except Belorus.
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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Feb 22 1.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As I previously said, claims of genocide completely refuted by John Pienaar Russia FM Lavrov says the BBC had never even been there. If the Russian News channel is banned, they will respond by banning the BBCs Russia Service, as its also state-owned (and propaganda)
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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Feb 22 2.01pm | |
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I think Russia is not in Kiev for its health, and will impose a Russia friendly government in the weeks ahead. 'We want Ukrainians to have their own government, not be ruled from outside'- Lavrov Russia FM today on RT.
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Spiderman Horsham 25 Feb 22 2.13pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Russia FM Lavrov says the BBC had never even been there. If the Russian News channel is banned, they will respond by banning the BBCs Russia Service, as its also state-owned (and propaganda)
Well if the Russians say it, it must betrue
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BlueJay UK 25 Feb 22 2.16pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I think Russia is not in Kiev for its health, and will impose a Russia friendly government in the weeks ahead. 'We want Ukrainians to have their own government, not be ruled from outside'- Lavrov Russia FM today on RT. Your definition of 'their own government' seems a little wonky. Interior Ministry adviser Vadym Denysenko says 18,000 machine guns "have been handed out in Kyiv to all volunteers, all those who want to defend our capital with weapons in their arms".
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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Feb 22 2.22pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Your definition of 'their own government' seems a little wonky. Interior Ministry adviser Vadym Denysenko says 18,000 machine guns "have been handed out in Kyiv to all volunteers, all those who want to defend our capital with weapons in their arms".
I certainly don't support the 'slaying' of anybody. You really need to get a grip.
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georgenorman 25 Feb 22 2.24pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I certainly don't support the 'slaying' of anybody. You really need to get a grip. Hilarious that you of all people tells someone to get a grip.
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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Feb 22 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Well if the Russians say it, it must betrue If you go on to RT you can choose what you want to believe yourself S. A news conference with Lavrov Russia FM this morning- he's pulling no punches either.
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BlueJay UK 25 Feb 22 2.32pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I certainly don't support the 'slaying' of anybody. You really need to get a grip. Other than a QAnon level gullibility on the subject and bizarre subservience to Russian intentions, you don't seem to know what you believe. So I take it that you believe that Ukranian citiziens should lay down their arms in the face of an invading force? Or if you don't, then yes you indeed are taking a position that is not averse to their slaving because that is precisely what will happen. Make your mind up.
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Stirlingsays 25 Feb 22 2.36pm | |
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Steely has a point of view, where's the proportionality, let's focus on what people actually say, not what people extrapolate what they say.....he isn't out there putting heads on pikes. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Feb 2022 2.38pm)
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BlueJay UK 25 Feb 22 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Steely has a point of view, where's the proportionality, let's focus on what people actually say, not what people extrapolate what they say.....he isn't out there putting heads on pikes. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Feb 2022 2.38pm) The reality is the reality. If a claim is made that an invading force is essentially the rightful government, I'm asking what of those tens of thousands of Ukranians who already have a government and country and are willing to defend it. The only options are to fight for it and likely be killed, or lay down their arms. I am wondering what Steeley thinks they should do, and whether he recognises the consequences to ordinary Ukranian people by taking the stance that he does.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Feb 22 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Other than a QAnon level gullibility on the subject and bizarre subservience to Russian intentions, you don't seem to know what you believe. So I take it that you believe that Ukranian citiziens should lay down their arms in the face of an invading force? Or if you don't, then yes you indeed are taking a position that is not averse to their slaving because that is precisely what will happen. Make your mind up. I thought it had been made quite clear this was just a military training exercise that happened to be within close proximity to another sovereign nation? It's almost inevitable that some soldiers/fighter pilots etc would get lost and there'd be few stray shells. The audacity of these accusations are just absurd. Why would the likes of Putin feel the need to lie or deliberately mislead anyone? You're crazy BlueJay, crazy maaan!
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