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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 May 22 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Beastie
Honesty and clear language is needed. Hopefully, eventually there will be a re-set and it will be all be able to say an adult human male is a man, and an adult human female is a woman. Yep agree. I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not.
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Badger11  Beckenham 11 May 22 12.28pm |
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Says it all one of the senior figures at Stonewall can't even give evidence in a trial without support people. Sorry but that is pathetic, how can you do your job as a senior? Or maybe you just don't like the idea that your views will be challenged. Edited by Badger11 (11 May 2022 12.28pm)
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| BlueJay UK 11 May 22 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Beastie
Honesty and clear language is needed. Hopefully, eventually there will be a re-set and it will be all be able to say an adult human male is a man, and an adult human female is a woman. Gender dysphoria is a complicated issue. From a psychological point of view, gender reassignment is clearly not always the 'wrong' choice. Indeed if a person is happier post sex change they do not even have Gender dysphoria at that point. Clearly a biological man is a man and a biological woman is a woman, but as adults at least (since i've very much against kids making drastic decisions) people make their own choices in life, as they should be able to, and if there is an intersection where it inconveniences others it will have to be thrashed out as it goes in a rational way though, rather than what activists want etc. As I say, to my mind trans women should simply never be in womens sport, that I believe is what con conclusion will eventually be reached and it will offer clarity.
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| BlueJay UK 11 May 22 2.27pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Yep agree. I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not. I agree, this all sounds perfectly sensible. We all have a different path in life and it's all too easy to pontificate about what someone else should do when we're not in their shoes. That has to though, be set within understood realities though. As you say a biological woman is a woman, and a trans woman can never be that, and so language, sense and law should factor that in rather than magic away differences that will always be there.
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| YT Oxford 11 May 22 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Yep agree. I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not. 'The' not 'a'.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 May 22 4.49pm |
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| Matov 16 May 22 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I genuinely struggle to understand the Left over this trans issues. It's a tiny minority interest, with no real defining movement nor agreement on what 'Trans' actually is. And yet they are willing to attack women whilst dressed in masks? Like a bunch of would be rapists? And I make no apologies for that emotive language because that is the reality. Men attacking women for their own gratification. The optics are horrendous and offers the Tories an open goal. Labour can present policy after policy and yet everytime a leading Labour politician cannot define what a woman is, they get humiliated.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 May 22 6.39am |
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Disgusting antics I hope somebody pulls their masks off and shows their faces to the world "I hope your mother is proud of you" should be the tag line. I don't understand these morons why hide your face if you cause and your behaviour is just. Unless of course...
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 May 22 4.26pm |
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Drag show for toddlers, do me a favour.
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