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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 May 22 10.58am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Beastie


The reason we’ve got in this mess is by ignoring this inevitable end point. Validating the wishes of people with gender dysphoria seems polite and harmless but the result is mixed sex sports, toilets, prisons, rape centres/refuges and everything else you can think of.

Honesty and clear language is needed. Hopefully, eventually there will be a re-set and it will be all be able to say an adult human male is a man, and an adult human female is a woman.

Yep agree.

I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 May 22 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Says it all one of the senior figures at Stonewall can't even give evidence in a trial without support people. Sorry but that is pathetic, how can you do your job as a senior? Or maybe you just don't like the idea that your views will be challenged.

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BlueJay Flag UK 11 May 22 2.23pm

Originally posted by Beastie


The reason we’ve got in this mess is by ignoring this inevitable end point. Validating the wishes of people with gender dysphoria seems polite and harmless but the result is mixed sex sports, toilets, prisons, rape centres/refuges and everything else you can think of.

Honesty and clear language is needed. Hopefully, eventually there will be a re-set and it will be all be able to say an adult human male is a man, and an adult human female is a woman.

Gender dysphoria is a complicated issue. From a psychological point of view, gender reassignment is clearly not always the 'wrong' choice. Indeed if a person is happier post sex change they do not even have Gender dysphoria at that point.

Clearly a biological man is a man and a biological woman is a woman, but as adults at least (since i've very much against kids making drastic decisions) people make their own choices in life, as they should be able to, and if there is an intersection where it inconveniences others it will have to be thrashed out as it goes in a rational way though, rather than what activists want etc. As I say, to my mind trans women should simply never be in womens sport, that I believe is what con conclusion will eventually be reached and it will offer clarity.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 11 May 22 2.27pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yep agree.

I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not.

I agree, this all sounds perfectly sensible. We all have a different path in life and it's all too easy to pontificate about what someone else should do when we're not in their shoes. That has to though, be set within understood realities though. As you say a biological woman is a woman, and a trans woman can never be that, and so language, sense and law should factor that in rather than magic away differences that will always be there.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 May 22 4.24pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yep agree.

I'd also add however that if you choose to live your life as a sex different to your own you have the right to identify as such. However, that will be your identity: You are a 'trans' man or woman, a factual statement. It should not give you the right to then be legally identified and protected as something you are not.

'The' not 'a'.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 May 22 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

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Nothing like seeing a female suffragette supporter physically assaulted by a bunch of blokes eh?

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 16 May 22 8.40pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

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Nothing like seeing a female suffragette supporter physically assaulted by a bunch of blokes eh?

I genuinely struggle to understand the Left over this trans issues. It's a tiny minority interest, with no real defining movement nor agreement on what 'Trans' actually is.

And yet they are willing to attack women whilst dressed in masks? Like a bunch of would be rapists? And I make no apologies for that emotive language because that is the reality. Men attacking women for their own gratification.

The optics are horrendous and offers the Tories an open goal. Labour can present policy after policy and yet everytime a leading Labour politician cannot define what a woman is, they get humiliated.


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"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 May 22 6.39am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Disgusting antics I hope somebody pulls their masks off and shows their faces to the world "I hope your mother is proud of you" should be the tag line.

I don't understand these morons why hide your face if you cause and your behaviour is just. Unless of course...

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 May 22 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Drag show for toddlers, do me a favour.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 20 Jun 22 9.01am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

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If there was ever indication of all that is wrong with the world it is this sudden epiphany to produce a decision that was reached by almost every sane or logical thinking person almost immediately!

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 20 Jun 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

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If there was ever indication of all that is wrong with the world it is this sudden epiphany to produce a decision that was reached by almost every sane or logical thinking person almost immediately!

Edited by Nicholas91 (20 Jun 2022 9.01am)


Now all we need to do is convince the relative authorities that:

people with a cervix
people who menstruate
birth-givers
chest feeders
etc. etc. etc

are actually WOMEN - who are the only people that these things apply to, and the NHS and others can stop wasting money on changing their literature to nonsense!

 


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....and then of course there was this over the weekend.....

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