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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jul 22 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Interesting.

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I am so bored with your lazy posting

Look up the data first will you

Kindly tell me what you think is cheaper to build and run than either wind turbines or photovoltaics

Renewables definitely aren't cheaper.

Before this stupid war energy was at least affordable, now with the cost increases and the green agenda the poor are screwed.

I shouldn't think the likes of you will hurt that much though.

Photovoltaics are too expensive at the moment and more suited to far more regularly hotter countries than northern Europe.

It's not that I'm against renewable technology....it has its place....I just don't agree with making the poorest pay for it.

 


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Josh Salisbury on Yahoo.com
Tue, 19 July 2022 at 10:55 am

Extinction Rebellion protesters smashed two windows at the News UK headquarters in London on Tuesday morning in what it said was a protest over the newspaper’s coverage of the heatwave.

Police said they arrested five people on suspicion of criminal damage after the protest which occurred at 6.40am.

News UK is the publisher of The Sun newspaper, which activists accused of downplaying the heatwave by covering their front pages with “images of women in bikinis”.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Jul 22 6.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Renewables definitely aren't cheaper.

Before this stupid war energy was at least affordable, now with the cost increases and the green agenda the poor are screwed.

I shouldn't think the likes of you will hurt that much though.

Photovoltaics are too expensive at the moment and more suited to far more regularly hotter countries than northern Europe.

It's not that I'm against renewable technology....it has its place....I just don't agree with making the poorest pay for it.

You are wrong

Prove it

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 22 7.00pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You are wrong

Prove it

Ah the old prove it line. Always a winner for someone who’s run out of their own evidence. It’s all bollox and time will make me right. Although we are contributing but a bit of a piss in the sea in the bigger picture.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Ah the old prove it line. Always a winner for someone who’s run out of their own evidence. It’s all bollox and time will make me right. Although we are contributing but a bit of a piss in the sea in the bigger picture.

What the hell makes you think I have run out of evidence

I am truly fed up with all the outspoken posters on this site spouting nonsense, claiming they really know and then not backing up their arguments. It really isn't hard to check

Here is a starter, although why I am bothering to provide evidence to counter someone that is clearly talking out of their sweet cheeks is actually beyond me

In 2019 this was published by the WEF, i.e. before the price of fossil fuels rocketed and the cost of renewable infrastructure dropped significantly.

For the first time, the price of onshore wind and solar PV-generated power have both fallen below $0.05/kWh. Fossil fuel-fired power generation usually costs between $0.05/kWh and $0.18/kWh. Going forward, global average renewable auction prices are coming in comfortably within that range.

Then there was this last year, again before the price of fossil fuels went up

Renewables are now significantly undercutting fossil fuels as the world’s cheapest source of energy, according to a new report.

Of the wind, solar and other renewables that came on stream in 2020, nearly two-thirds – 62% – were cheaper than the cheapest new fossil fuel, according to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA).

This year UCL commented:

The last fixed-price government contracts offered for offshore wind energy in Britain – hardly the cheapest of renewables – were under 5p per kilowatt hour (kWh). That’s less than a quarter of the typical domestic tariff (what most people pay for electricity at home) that consumers are set to face in 2022. Households are paying for their electricity several times what it now costs to generate and transmit it from the cleanest energy sources at scale.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 22 8.36pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

What the hell makes you think I have run out of evidence

I am truly fed up with all the outspoken posters on this site spouting nonsense, claiming they really know and then not backing up their arguments. It really isn't hard to check

Here is a starter, although why I am bothering to provide evidence to counter someone that is clearly talking out of their sweet cheeks is actually beyond me

In 2019 this was published by the WEF, i.e. before the price of fossil fuels rocketed and the cost of renewable infrastructure dropped significantly.

For the first time, the price of onshore wind and solar PV-generated power have both fallen below {text}.05/kWh. Fossil fuel-fired power generation usually costs between {text}.05/kWh and {text}.18/kWh. Going forward, global average renewable auction prices are coming in comfortably within that range.

Then there was this last year, again before the price of fossil fuels went up

Renewables are now significantly undercutting fossil fuels as the world’s cheapest source of energy, according to a new report.

Of the wind, solar and other renewables that came on stream in 2020, nearly two-thirds – 62% – were cheaper than the cheapest new fossil fuel, according to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA).

This year UCL commented:

The last fixed-price government contracts offered for offshore wind energy in Britain – hardly the cheapest of renewables – were under 5p per kilowatt hour (kWh). That’s less than a quarter of the typical domestic tariff (what most people pay for electricity at home) that consumers are set to face in 2022. Households are paying for their electricity several times what it now costs to generate and transmit it from the cleanest energy sources at scale.

But your backing it up with the same. I have questioned why the best case scenario; that being we arnt f***ing it up big style isn’t produced. Why have all the scientists got the same results. Because if they don’t they’re done. End. No more funding, no more air time etc. I have also said I think our effect is not helping. Why are you not wanting what I want. Why are you constantly giving me what these scientists produce. Give me some best case and I personally think people will get onboard. Constantly worst case what do you expect. Yes young people are ranting the most as they are the future but atm they all believe arnies coming to put a bubble round every city. Ffs give them some hope not just this never ending fear.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 22 8.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Btw I just had two minutes of rain.
I was like Tim robbins in shawshank

 

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Don’t understand the fuss over these fires. Farmers will be made up. Up until a few years ago bush burning on fields was the norm. Oh there I go another thing stopped that was going to save the planet. It goes on and on and on

 

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View Apollofuzz's Profile Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 19 Jul 22 8.59pm Send a Private Message to Apollofuzz Add Apollofuzz as a friend

The farmers tend to burn the stubble not the actual crops

Originally posted by cryrst

Don’t understand the fuss over these fires. Farmers will be made up. Up until a few years ago bush burning on fields was the norm. Oh there I go another thing stopped that was going to save the planet. It goes on and on and on

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 22 9.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

The farmers tend to burn the stubble not the actual crops

Granted and they tended to, past tense as burning bad now, but it will be a top crop next year. Just when we need it most!

Edited by cryrst (19 Jul 2022 9.40pm)

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Jul 22 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

The farmers tend to burn the stubble not the actual crops

in my experience, farmers burn a lot worse than crops. Diseased animal carcasses, old tractor tyres and 'other stuff' soaked in red diesel.

 


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