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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 27 Aug 22 9.29am Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

Maybe it might be worth taking a look at the value of Sterling both pre and post Brexit; that should provide an idea of markets views on the strength or otherwise of the British economy and the future outlook.
Another metric worth looking at is trade; very significantly down with our biggest mkt - the EU - and also a surge in imports. Its now a scenario that can continue without it having real economic impact.
The trade deals that have been struck are largely EU roll overs except those with the likes of Australia/NZ - controversial in nature as I am sure you know.
My sense is that the UK is really struggling to fund basic services - health, local govt etc. There are no doubt a multitude of reasons but Brexit seems unlikely to have helped.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Aug 22 10.36am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

GBP to Euro ROE virtually the same now as Brexit Day 31 Jan 2020.

GBP and Euro have both moved very similarly vs the USD in the same period, @ 10% down.

So overall since Jan 31 2020 GBP and Euro have behaved very similarly vs the USD.

Presumably the countries that use the Euro are still in the EU.

Pesky facts for those claiming Brexit effect on GBP "collapse".

Going back to 2016 would be of little use as the GBP has lost 20% and Euro 10% vs the USD. The 10% difference is not enough to be meaningful.

Edited by HKOwen (27 Aug 2022 10.39am)

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Aug 22 11.01am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Metric is technically the better system....but I'm English so feck em and the frogs they rode in on.

I like this answer but, for instance, no one knows their height in metres - even kids. Some know their weight in kilos but it always makes me laugh when I buy 454 gms of mince.

 


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View baldeagle73's Profile baldeagle73 Flag Leamington spa 27 Aug 22 11.24am Send a Private Message to baldeagle73 Add baldeagle73 as a friend

I didnít vote at all Iíve never voted in any election but has anything actually got better since leaving the eu

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Aug 22 12.00pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

We have a tsunami of crises and brexit is making them all a darn sight worse.

Truss appears to be brexits' last throw, if she cannot deliver any tangible benefit we could ultimately re-join.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Aug 22 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We have a tsunami of crises and brexit is making them all a darn sight worse.

Truss appears to be brexits' last throw, if she cannot deliver any tangible benefit we could ultimately re-join.

Evidence?

It is laughable that Leavers claim some sort of high ground during a period of transition where economic wobbles were easily predictable, Some of us are thinking a little longer term.

Our current crises have nothing to do with Brexit, as you know full well.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Aug 2022 12.31pm)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Aug 22 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Evidence?

It is laughable that Leavers claim some sort of high ground during a period of transition where economic wobbles were easily predictable, Some of us are thinking a little longer term.

Our current crises have nothing to do with Brexit, as you know full well.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Aug 2022 12.31pm)

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A period of transition, which even the most ardent Brexiteer accepts will take 30 years to get back to where we were!

Where will the EU be by then?

The ardent Brexiteer believes they will be down the drain, mired in a mess of their own making.

I donít.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 27 Aug 22 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by baldeagle73

I didnít vote at all Iíve never voted in any election but has anything actually got better since leaving the eu

It was about principles of control and what forms you endorse.

Other than a vote no individual gets more of a say on what happens afterwards.

One thing is for sure, anyone who voted remain and then looks at how the EU have behaved can be of no doubt as to their nature.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Aug 22 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It was about principles of control and what forms you endorse.

Other than a vote no individual gets more of a say on what happens afterwards.

One thing is for sure, anyone who voted remain and then looks at how the EU have behaved can be of no doubt as to their nature.

Agreed. I wanted our parliament to have control they no longer have any excuses. Now we need parties to step up and start governing so far I admit the Tories have done a poor job that doesn't mean Brexit was a bad idea.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Aug 22 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It was about principles of control and what forms you endorse.

Other than a vote no individual gets more of a say on what happens afterwards.

One thing is for sure, anyone who voted remain and then looks at how the EU have behaved can be of no doubt as to their nature.

That no one comes out smelling of roses isnít the point.

Itís whether, on balance, we are better inside than out.

Of course no one gets a say other than at a GE. Thatís the way a representative democracy works. The EU simply extends that principle whilst adding considerable benefits of collective action and strength.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 27 Aug 22 2.41pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


That no one comes out smelling of roses isnít the point.

Itís whether, on balance, we are better inside than out.

Of course no one gets a say other than at a GE. Thatís the way a representative democracy works. The EU simply extends that principle whilst adding considerable benefits of collective action and strength.

That's true, we certainly did not get any real say in the EU elections other than being able to register a UKIP protest vote.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 27 Aug 22 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That no one comes out smelling of roses isnít the point.

Itís whether, on balance, we are better inside than out.

Of course no one gets a say other than at a GE. Thatís the way a representative democracy works. The EU simply extends that principle whilst adding considerable benefits of collective action and strength.

Anything that works against greater globalism works for me.

I'm all for co-operation on mutual interests but the more power you give politicians the more greater the feck ups and the lies will be to cover them.......I think recent events are pretty strong evidence for that.

The EU is awash with low quality technocrats and politicians with far more power than their abilities warrant.

Over decades, politicians have lowered people's standard of living, not increased it. They essentially work as a containment layer between us plebs and the much more wealthy.....if they were employed privately by a business interested in increasing the wealth of the nation they would be given their P45s straight away.

With the current democracy in the UK you essentially get uni-parties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2022 3.23pm)

 


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