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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 27 Aug 22 9.41pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by W12

We have decades worth of geo/meta politics all happening within weeks months which will decide the direction of this planet for probably the next 50-100 years.

But you know “glad all over” and a bit of “Love Island” right?

f***ing bulls*** if you want to ignore it.

Tell me in the spring that we were focusing on the wrong things.


Indeed - the current crisis is slightly more important than 3 points against a team owned by a country !

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 28 Aug 22 12.30am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We have a tsunami of crises and brexit is making them all a darn sight worse.

Truss appears to be brexits' last throw, if she cannot deliver any tangible benefit we could ultimately re-join.

What exactly is a darn sight worse other than it being your partisan opinion.

Am more than happy to look at any facts that support this.

 


When the veneer of civility cracks and the abuse starts....sit back, smile and enjoy a point at Anfield

He reaching for the pocket....and it's a long overdue yellow

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 28 Aug 22 12.32am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

If you don't vote you have lost the right to moan !!

 


When the veneer of civility cracks and the abuse starts....sit back, smile and enjoy a point at Anfield

He reaching for the pocket....and it's a long overdue yellow

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W12 28 Aug 22 3.32am

Originally posted by HKOwen

If you don't vote you have lost the right to moan !!

At this point in history voting is the adult version of sending a letter to Santa

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 22 9.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anything that works against greater globalism works for me.

I'm all for co-operation on mutual interests but the more power you give politicians the more greater the feck ups and the lies will be to cover them.......I think recent events are pretty strong evidence for that.

The EU is awash with low quality technocrats and politicians with far more power than their abilities warrant.

Over decades, politicians have lowered people's standard of living, not increased it. They essentially work as a containment layer between us plebs and the much more wealthy.....if they were employed privately by a business interested in increasing the wealth of the nation they would be given their P45s straight away.

With the current democracy in the UK you essentially get uni-parties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2022 3.23pm)

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If you don’t give power to politicians who do you want to give it to and how? I have often wondered if you truly believed in parliamentary democracy. I think we need to improve the way it works, by PR, give more power to MPs to control the government via secret voting and curtailing the whips.

I don’t though see a better system.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 22 9.24am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Obnoxious again. Little englander is a sad statement. You do know lots of left wingers voted for brexit.

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There are plenty of left wingers who are Little Englanders!!

Why do you take such exception at the description? It’s an entirely accurate description of an attitude that many are proud to hold.

A country punching above its weight ruling the waves.

Worked 150 years ago. Why not now?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 22 9.52am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Crap.

They are worse because of endless short termism and mismanagement.

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Not unrelated!

Both involve the same people!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 22 10.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Whilst I share a lot of sympathy with many of your views, on this particular one, I fear you are overegging the pudding a little.

Campaigning for us to rejoin the EU is a perfectly legitimate political aspiration. Holding marches is part of our how democratic process works.

I detested, and cut plenty of people out of my life because of it, the ins idious campaign to have my vote from June 2016 rendered null and void, and still seethe with anger about the disgusting attempts to stop us leaving the EU but its done and dusted now.

I never had a single problem with anybody wanting, and campaigning, for us to remain in the EU prior to June 2016. And now, post our departure, have zero problems with people wanting us to rejoin.

This is how it is meant to work.

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Sorry for late response to this but just noticed other responses. This has been a constant belief of yours, which I think is misplaced, unreasonable and unhealthy.

Our Parliament is sovereign. If they decide to hold any referendum they still have to decide whether to act on it’s result. Their job is always to act in what they believe is our best interests. In the end they decided to press ahead with Brexit, but that doesn’t mean that those who thought the circumstances had changed sufficiently to require another course were wrong to do so. They were performing their constitutional duty just as much as the other representatives in using their consciences on our behalf.

Disagreeing with their judgment is fine. Believing they are “disgusting” is to misunderstand what they were doing.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Aug 22 10.08am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

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Not unrelated!

Both involve the same people!

They are problems that existed way before this government.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 28 Aug 22 10.46am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

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There are plenty of left wingers who are Little Englanders!!

Why do you take such exception at the description? It’s an entirely accurate description of an attitude that many are proud to hold.

A country punching above its weight ruling the waves.

Worked 150 years ago. Why not now?


This must be a parody account where you pretend to be a deluded, idiotic, pompous, arrogant geriatric just to see what response you get?

You certainly had me fooled !

 


When the veneer of civility cracks and the abuse starts....sit back, smile and enjoy a point at Anfield

He reaching for the pocket....and it's a long overdue yellow

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 28 Aug 22 10.59am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

They are problems that existed way before this government.

Yes but the problems became worse by handing the keys over to the populist dregs on the far right of the Tories. There is a good reason why they were dubbed swivel eyed loons and ignored by everyone including their own party until the referendum opened Pandoras box and presented the opportunity to seize power.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Aug 22 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Yes but the problems became worse by handing the keys over to the populist dregs on the far right of the Tories. There is a good reason why they were dubbed swivel eyed loons and ignored by everyone including their own party until the referendum opened Pandoras box and presented the opportunity to seize power.

It’s rather difficult to respond to such a general assertion.

To answer in a similar fashion. There are, without doubt, more loons on the left than on the right.
I think the issues with Britain are more about the political class in general, but it would be fair to say that decisions are often ultimately taken by individuals.

When we look back at historical policy, it probably doesn't reflect well on either side of the house.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Aug 2022 12.32pm)

 

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