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jcreedy 05 Sep 23 8.21pm
Originally posted by cryrst Who puts a time limit on these visas and why is the question. Is it our hmg or the eu being spiteful as they got the hump that we left. I don’t know who but be interested to know. [Link] It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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jcreedy

05 Sep 23 8.21pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Who puts a time limit on these visas and why is the question. Is it our hmg or the eu being spiteful as they got the hump that we left. I don’t know who but be interested to know.

[Link]

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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jcreedy 05 Sep 23 8.23pm
Originally posted by HKOwen . Sometimes life has challenges Edited by HKOwen (05 Sep 2023 4.36pm) Challenges weren't what was promised though, were they? Edited by jcreedy (05 Sep 2023 8.23pm) It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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jcreedy

05 Sep 23 8.23pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Sometimes life has challenges

Edited by HKOwen (05 Sep 2023 4.36pm)

Challenges weren't what was promised though, were they?

Edited by jcreedy (05 Sep 2023 8.23pm)

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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jcreedy 05 Sep 23 8.32pm
Originally posted by HKOwen One example does not make " all of us poorer ". The " experts " you mention are far from that. BoE has got everything wrong for years. CBI is a political lobbying body, the House of Lords LMFAO. Roger Daltrey has a different view to you. Referencing the Beatles is simply bizarre, that was before the EU existed so you would then be in favour of no EU. Too bad the music industry has apparently been made more difficult, ULEZ has made life difficult and expensive for thousands in the London area. Presumably EU musicians are similarly restricted so many more opportunities available in the UK where these EU musicians are jobs cancelled. Sometimes life has challenges Edited by HKOwen (05 Sep 2023 4.36pm) You asked for one example. I gave you one tiny example of the many that people all over the country face. You choose to dismiss it because it doesn't fit in with your Brexit faith. Daltrey is a perfect example of someone cheerleading Brexit, and not liking it when Johnson "got Brexit done". And now, like someone who cancelled their gym membership, but still expects to use gym...: "Daltrey also complained about the difficulties currently facing musicians who wish to tour around Europe, as they face costly delays caused by red tape and the ongoing lorry queues at Dover." It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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jcreedy

05 Sep 23 8.32pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

One example does not make " all of us poorer ".

The " experts " you mention are far from that. BoE has got everything wrong for years. CBI is a political lobbying body, the House of Lords LMFAO.

Roger Daltrey has a different view to you.

Referencing the Beatles is simply bizarre, that was before the EU existed so you would then be in favour of no EU.

Too bad the music industry has apparently been made more difficult, ULEZ has made life difficult and expensive for thousands in the London area.

Presumably EU musicians are similarly restricted so many more opportunities available in the UK where these EU musicians are jobs cancelled.

Sometimes life has challenges

Edited by HKOwen (05 Sep 2023 4.36pm)

You asked for one example. I gave you one tiny example of the many that people all over the country face. You choose to dismiss it because it doesn't fit in with your Brexit faith.

Daltrey is a perfect example of someone cheerleading Brexit, and not liking it when Johnson "got Brexit done".
And now, like someone who cancelled their gym membership, but still expects to use gym...: "Daltrey also complained about the difficulties currently facing musicians who wish to tour around Europe, as they face costly delays caused by red tape and the ongoing lorry queues at Dover."

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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Matov 05 Sep 23 9.15pm
I regret very little about Brexit but I do think its a shame that musicians cannot just move around and entertain people like they used to. And struggle to believe an agreement cannot have been reached about this. But such is the political class at the moment. Would be interesting to know if the Beatles did need work permits when they were over in Hamburg? Edited by Matov (05 Sep 2023 9.16pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

05 Sep 23 9.15pm

I regret very little about Brexit but I do think its a shame that musicians cannot just move around and entertain people like they used to.

And struggle to believe an agreement cannot have been reached about this.

But such is the political class at the moment.

Would be interesting to know if the Beatles did need work permits when they were over in Hamburg?

Edited by Matov (05 Sep 2023 9.16pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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glazedallover Allier 05 Sep 23 9.36pm
Originally posted by jcreedy Challenges weren't what was promised though, were they? Edited by jcreedy (05 Sep 2023 8.23pm) HKphooey probably one of the most arrogant and obnoxious nuts on here. And that's saying something.
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Allier 05 Sep 23 9.36pm

Originally posted by jcreedy

Challenges weren't what was promised though, were they?

Edited by jcreedy (05 Sep 2023 8.23pm)

HKphooey probably one of the most arrogant and obnoxious nuts on here. And that's saying something.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 9.47pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle If it's not perceived as such by the recipient then there's no issue. That the term itself gets the ridicule it deserves doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue. Just so long as some continue to believe that the only reason others seek to rejoin the EU is because they are embittered remainers then their language needs to be called out. The battles of the past are done but the war isn’t. Whilst clearly there is a hard-line core who never accepted the EU from the start and campaigned throughout our membership to see us leave, there were many others who got sold by the promises. Enough to gain the slim majority it did which was then, foolishly, accepted by Parliament on the basis of a very poor exit “deal”. I have no doubt, confirmed by poling, that more than enough have revised their ideas. They have visited the promised land, tasted the grass, and decided it was a mistake. Al that now stands in the way is political timing. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 9.47pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If it's not perceived as such by the recipient then there's no issue.

That the term itself gets the ridicule it deserves doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue. Just so long as some continue to believe that the only reason others seek to rejoin the EU is because they are embittered remainers then their language needs to be called out.

The battles of the past are done but the war isn’t. Whilst clearly there is a hard-line core who never accepted the EU from the start and campaigned throughout our membership to see us leave, there were many others who got sold by the promises. Enough to gain the slim majority it did which was then, foolishly, accepted by Parliament on the basis of a very poor exit “deal”.

I have no doubt, confirmed by poling, that more than enough have revised their ideas. They have visited the promised land, tasted the grass, and decided it was a mistake.

Al that now stands in the way is political timing.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 9.51pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Not bad. Rejoiner is the obvious and accurate term. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 9.51pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Not bad.

Rejoiner is the obvious and accurate term.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 05 Sep 23 10.25pm
Originally posted by jcreedy [Link] In the article it states that extensions can be requested. Is that how you read it ?
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The garden of England 05 Sep 23 10.25pm

Originally posted by jcreedy

[Link]

In the article it states that extensions can be requested. Is that how you read it ?

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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Sep 23 10.26pm
Originally posted by Matov I regret very little about Brexit but I do think its a shame that musicians cannot just move around and entertain people like they used to. And struggle to believe an agreement cannot have been reached about this. But such is the political class at the moment. Would be interesting to know if the Beatles did need work permits when they were over in Hamburg? Edited by Matov (05 Sep 2023 9.16pm) They may have just chanced it. Paul McCartney needed a guitar and bought a Hoffner while in Hamburg for £30. Does it still exist, it was believed stolen, Sir Paul and others searching high and low. Must be worth millions. Those were the days.....
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steeleye20

Croydon 05 Sep 23 10.26pm

Originally posted by Matov

I regret very little about Brexit but I do think its a shame that musicians cannot just move around and entertain people like they used to.

And struggle to believe an agreement cannot have been reached about this.

But such is the political class at the moment.

Would be interesting to know if the Beatles did need work permits when they were over in Hamburg?

Edited by Matov (05 Sep 2023 9.16pm)

They may have just chanced it.

Paul McCartney needed a guitar and bought a Hoffner while in Hamburg for £30.

Does it still exist, it was believed stolen, Sir Paul and others searching high and low.

Must be worth millions.

Those were the days.....

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Teddy Eagle 05 Sep 23 11.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That the term itself gets the ridicule it deserves doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue. Just so long as some continue to believe that the only reason others seek to rejoin the EU is because they are embittered remainers then their language needs to be called out. The battles of the past are done but the war isn’t. Whilst clearly there is a hard-line core who never accepted the EU from the start and campaigned throughout our membership to see us leave, there were many others who got sold by the promises. Enough to gain the slim majority it did which was then, foolishly, accepted by Parliament on the basis of a very poor exit “deal”. I have no doubt, confirmed by poling, that more than enough have revised their ideas. They have visited the promised land, tasted the grass, and decided it was a mistake. Al that now stands in the way is political timing. No problem. Carry on calling out. France didn't want us there in the first place so they're unlikely to be particularly welcoming now.
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Teddy Eagle

05 Sep 23 11.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no doubt, confirmed by poling, that more than enough have revised their ideas. They have visited the promised land, tasted the grass, and decided it was a mistake.

Al that now stands in the way is political timing.

No problem. Carry on calling out. France didn't want us there in the first place so they're unlikely to be particularly welcoming now.

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Teddy Eagle 05 Sep 23 11.23pm
Originally posted by jcreedy You asked for one example. I gave you one tiny example of the many that people all over the country face. You choose to dismiss it because it doesn't fit in with your Brexit faith. Daltrey is a perfect example of someone cheerleading Brexit, and not liking it when Johnson "got Brexit done". And now, like someone who cancelled their gym membership, but still expects to use gym...: "Daltrey also complained about the difficulties currently facing musicians who wish to tour around Europe, as they face costly delays caused by red tape and the ongoing lorry queues at Dover." Doesn't explain how the Beatles, and others, coped 10 years before we joined the Common Market.
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Teddy Eagle

05 Sep 23 11.23pm

Originally posted by jcreedy

You asked for one example. I gave you one tiny example of the many that people all over the country face. You choose to dismiss it because it doesn't fit in with your Brexit faith.

Doesn't explain how the Beatles, and others, coped 10 years before we joined the Common Market.

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Teddy Eagle 06 Sep 23 12.00am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Rejoiner is the obvious and accurate term. Too general. It needs the Br,.. or it means no more than exiteer.
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Teddy Eagle

06 Sep 23 12.00am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Rejoiner is the obvious and accurate term.

Too general. It needs the Br,.. or it means no more than exiteer.

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