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snytaxx London 18 Feb 24 10.42am
Originally posted by beak The thought of Putin winning means he will go further ultimately Calais. For the record I am generally very sympathetic to the Ukrainians on this subject given it is a rare case of mostly right vs mostly wrong. I would however urge caution on making statements such as this though as although the sentiment is correct, it vastly exhagerates Putin's aims and abilities and will only ever be seized upon by those who drank the Kremlin kool aid as 'alarmist' and 'scaremongering'. The key thing to focus on when it comes to opposing Putin's land grab in ukraine is highlighting that by supporting him, not only this unbelievably short sighted and lazy, it's more that is fundementally detremental to our country and actually takes us further away from the nostalgic 'common sense politics' many of us here likely crave.
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London 18 Feb 24 10.42am

Originally posted by beak
The thought of Putin winning means he will go further ultimately Calais.

For the record I am generally very sympathetic to the Ukrainians on this subject given it is a rare case of mostly right vs mostly wrong.

I would however urge caution on making statements such as this though as although the sentiment is correct, it vastly exhagerates Putin's aims and abilities and will only ever be seized upon by those who drank the Kremlin kool aid as 'alarmist' and 'scaremongering'.

The key thing to focus on when it comes to opposing Putin's land grab in ukraine is highlighting that by supporting him, not only this unbelievably short sighted and lazy, it's more that is fundementally detremental to our country and actually takes us further away from the nostalgic 'common sense politics' many of us here likely crave.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Feb 24 11.05am
Originally posted by beak I typed AID which obviously doesn't include Western /NATO troops,in fact we are forbidden from entering the war.The thought of Putin winning means he will go further ultimately Calais. well, considering how awful the EU has been toward its own people, do not be surprised if the people of France/Ireland/Greece will greet Putin as a liberator. A conquering hero. Fixing the borders against Africa, cancelling the debt that has destroyed Greece & Ireland. Putting Antifa (and all their corporate collaborators) in their place. Putting the Nuclear Family back to the centre of society. Protecting the youth from sexual predators. Punishing narco-terrorists properly. Raising the fertility of working-people and lowering that of the longterm unemployed. Cos the EU is discredited and is already a dying animal. The West is like Downtown Philadelphia or Malmo Sweden......decadent, broke, dirty, on drugs, crime infested and already ruined. Rome Byzantium hitler napoleon the Soviet Union in 1989 all the great European empires fall. 'The West & EU' will be falling fairly soon. And it already started with Brexit, then the War in Ukraine.....next ? i reckon the Financial Markets will finish it off. You bankrupt the EU and you win. Paper money, FIAT money is only worth the paper it is printed on. Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Feb 2024 11.41am) Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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Originally posted by beak

I typed AID which obviously doesn't include Western /NATO troops,in fact we are forbidden from entering the war.The thought of Putin winning means he will go further ultimately Calais.

well, considering how awful the EU has been toward its own people, do not be surprised if the people of France/Ireland/Greece will greet Putin as a liberator. A conquering hero.

Fixing the borders against Africa, cancelling the debt that has destroyed Greece & Ireland. Putting Antifa (and all their corporate collaborators) in their place. Putting the Nuclear Family back to the centre of society. Protecting the youth from sexual predators. Punishing narco-terrorists properly.

Raising the fertility of working-people and lowering that of the longterm unemployed.

Cos the EU is discredited and is already a dying animal.

The West is like Downtown Philadelphia or Malmo Sweden......decadent, broke, dirty, on drugs, crime infested and already ruined.

Rome
Byzantium
hitler
napoleon
the Soviet Union in 1989

all the great European empires fall. 'The West & EU' will be falling fairly soon. And it already started with Brexit, then the War in Ukraine.....next ? i reckon the Financial Markets will finish it off. You bankrupt the EU and you win. Paper money, FIAT money is only worth the paper it is printed on.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Feb 2024 11.41am)

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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Stirlingsays Online 18 Feb 24 12.12pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio well, considering how awful the EU has been toward its own people, do not be surprised if the people of France/Ireland/Greece will greet Putin as a liberator. A conquering hero. Fixing the borders against Africa, cancelling the debt that has destroyed Greece & Ireland. Putting Antifa (and all their corporate collaborators) in their place. Putting the Nuclear Family back to the centre of society. Protecting the youth from sexual predators. Punishing narco-terrorists properly. Raising the fertility of working-people and lowering that of the longterm unemployed. Cos the EU is discredited and is already a dying animal. The West is like Downtown Philadelphia or Malmo Sweden......decadent, broke, dirty, on drugs, crime infested and already ruined. Rome Byzantium hitler napoleon the Soviet Union in 1989 all the great European empires fall. 'The West & EU' will be falling fairly soon. And it already started with Brexit, then the War in Ukraine.....next ? i reckon the Financial Markets will finish it off. You bankrupt the EU and you win. Paper money, FIAT money is only worth the paper it is printed on. Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Feb 2024 11.41am) It won't be Putin's military that sees the eventual collapse of US and Europe into competing fiefdoms...that will be other factors. We are in decline because of multiple factors not least the fact that our ruling classes, financial system and sociopolitical ideologies aren't fit for purpose. In the coming years you will notice increasing authoritarianism as society becomes increasingly polarised....essentially the meme about the US being a few years ahead of us is usually accurate. The next economic collapse will be spicy and will bring more changes than people realise....what those are will be up for grabs. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2024 1.59pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Feb 24 12.12pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

well, considering how awful the EU has been toward its own people, do not be surprised if the people of France/Ireland/Greece will greet Putin as a liberator. A conquering hero.

Raising the fertility of working-people and lowering that of the longterm unemployed.

Cos the EU is discredited and is already a dying animal.

The West is like Downtown Philadelphia or Malmo Sweden......decadent, broke, dirty, on drugs, crime infested and already ruined.

Rome
Byzantium
hitler
napoleon
the Soviet Union in 1989

Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Feb 2024 11.41am)

It won't be Putin's military that sees the eventual collapse of US and Europe into competing fiefdoms...that will be other factors. We are in decline because of multiple factors not least the fact that our ruling classes, financial system and sociopolitical ideologies aren't fit for purpose.

In the coming years you will notice increasing authoritarianism as society becomes increasingly polarised....essentially the meme about the US being a few years ahead of us is usually accurate.

The next economic collapse will be spicy and will bring more changes than people realise....what those are will be up for grabs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2024 1.59pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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