I was thinking 4 points over the weekend. That would put them and Everton at a similar points total to Luton thus giving them all a chance of survival .......convenient manipulation .

Agree with this assessment, Forest employed a top KC to represent them at the inquiry & i believe this is the final outcome with no appeal forthcoming, bit like a 'plea-bargin' if you like. As for Everton . . .

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A draw would still be a good result as it would keep an 8 point gap. Everton, luton and forest all have to play each other.

I now have forest and luton locked together on GD at the end of the season!!! It could go down to the wire as there are only 2 goals between them.

What may save forest is that they have to play Sheff utd and Burnley in 2 of their last 3 games. If they are already down then the fight may have gone from their game.

Completely agree, I don't see them getting any points back.

If I were a Forest fan I'd be more worried that:

- We've made a lot of the 3 year loss we're allowed to make already
- We'll have committed outgoings for all these signings over their contract lengths in the coming years
- Not many of these players have gone up in value
- We're still s***.

For them to get competitive, either the same group needs to get a lot better, or they need to sell a big boy or two (is anyone really clamouring over any of their players to the extent they'd pay over the odds?) and spend much more wisely than they have been.

They could survive this season, but this may just be delaying the inevitable. A Leeds, Leicester, Southampton promotion is going to make next season tough.

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I think the 4 points is probably fair given the reasons around the Johnson transfer .

What I don't like about it is the appeal process . Appeal must be lodged a week before the end of the season which means if they are safe they do nothing but if they need the points back to stay up they appeal .
Thats not fair on the sides that are in the mix with them as they wont know what sort of results they need going into the final games

And we still need a striker

As was pointed out on a news programme today, the timing of the sale of Johnson was irrelevent when taking into consideration their case/punishment.

They new well in advance that they were breaking the FFP rules and they were still buying their 40 odd players over the 2 P'ship windows.

They should've either kept Johnson and not signed some of the players or sold him first and then spent accordingly.

It was no excuse.