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Quote JollyStef at 13 Dec 2004 10:45am

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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 13 Dec 2004 10:16am

Seems the true face of HOL has been exposed here doesn't it people.

I disagree with that statement. The Holmesdale online is a website dedicated to fans of a football team, Crystal Palace. At the end of the day, that links us all together, we came on this site because of that reason, to talk about the team we love and the things we have in common.

It is natural for people to have political opinions and the HOL is a place to voice them, however not everyone has such strong opinions, and understandably they may not be willing to speak out, due to intimidation. If somebody makes a 'strong' statement and no-one criticises it, then that doesn't necessarily mean everyone agrees, maybe just no-one wants to replay.

Primarily the HOL is a place for discussion about Crystal Palace FC, not a political forum,, hence coming across people with few vies compared to others. It is one of the great things about this site that allows people to have discussions in this vain, whether or not they are to be deleted is not my decision. But I do know that at the end of the day the 'true face' of HOL falls down under the bracket of Football and not right-wing politics.

So if football is all we can talk about then why are there posts about tv programs, women, music etc.. ?

Everytime it gets a little bit interesting and people with a real opinion surface it's being shot down !! Why ? If you got a forum called silly talk then why not have a forum called "serious talk" or "political talk". Then people who've got nothing else to say about life apart from the palace stuff even know they don't have to enter that !!

But just deleting posts and blocking users ??? VERY disappointing


I think my point has been misunderstodd, and frankly that's understandable as it wasn't written very well.

What is was trying to say is that the quote "Seems the true face of HOL has been exposed here doesn't it people." Is very off the mark.

I'm not saying that all we can talk about on here is football, in fact I enjoy many of the discussions here. All i'm trying to point out is that many people will share different views and maybe be offended by others, however will not feel right in posting on it. Hence moderators being asked to delte posts etc.

People may feel intimidated by other posters, whether they post about football or anything, they may feel appropriate to talk to a moderator, that doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy, or need to talk about the 'true face of HOL.'


 


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Quote JollyStef at 13 Dec 2004 10:58am

Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 10:41am
By all means debate topics, but can we leave personal insults away from this board. Email each other, do it face to face just sort it out away from here, I don't give a f***. And Saxon, you're not helping matters either.

Edited by Penge Eagle (13 Dec 2004 10:42am)

Agree, but then delete the thread asof the first post, not after a couple of pages (just when it was getting better) !!!

The thread hasn't been deleted. It's been moved to the moderator forum so myself and the other moderators can discuss the matter further. It can be reinstated and the insults which appear in further posts can be deleted.

 


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View JollyStef's Profile JollyStef 13 Dec 04 11.11am Send a Private Message to JollyStef Add JollyStef as a friend

Ok, I can live with that. i just find it disappointing as I really tried to get these 2 people to talk to eachother and see eachothers point. What the slug is concerned you are correct .. it's better when he posts as HMHS ..

 


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View saxoneagle's Profile saxoneagle Flag Bromley 13 Dec 04 11.13am Send a Private Message to saxoneagle Add saxoneagle as a friend

Just get on with it. Life's too short.

 

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Quote saxoneagle at 13 Dec 2004 11:13am

Just get on with it. Life's too short.

Seeing I lost someone close to me this weekend I can only second that !!


 


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View saxoneagle's Profile saxoneagle Flag Bromley 13 Dec 04 11.21am Send a Private Message to saxoneagle Add saxoneagle as a friend

Sorry to hear that Stef

 

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Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 11:00am

Slug, what are you on about?? How have you been silenced??? You're posting now aren't you?

Penge mate, I have been silenced. Posts I have made - no matter what name they are under - have been deleted. What else can it be? I'm not being amplified am I?! While I fully understand that personally offensive remarks aren't welcome, that description does not cover all of the deleted posts -- one or two, maximum. So it can't be the true (or only) reason for them being deleted.

As you rightly say I am indeed posting now, but after what's happened already, what guarantee do I have that my posts will remain on the board?

I posted twice on Gold Talk this morning for example. Now gone.

Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 11:00am

The issue was your Retardialtor username and that thread. Please don't stir up trouble mate.

Would you like it if someone started a new name - halfmanhalfprick - and started personal abuse about you? The answer would be no.

Understood - but no Mods ever asked me to change the name before deleting the thread (including posts by other users still considered valid). Why was I not given that chance?

Even Petealiator himself just took the pish out of the name I'd used -- he'd heard it all before only funnier. So the name can't be the reason either can it.

As for messing about with my name, I have tried but I can't bring myself to be upset about it, or even care much. Take a look at some of the versions of hmhs that Petealiator has used in the past - some quite amusing actually, some pathetically lame - in previous threads not one of them was removed or even commented on. Double standards again mate.

Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 11:00am

If you want to talk to me privately about the matter, then email me editor@holmesdale.net and we can sort any problems you may have out. Because at the moment, it looks to me that you have returned to the site after an absence of over a year just to cause trouble.

I'm sorry you see it that way mate, because that's not my intention. I posted because I could not let comments which I considered to be offensive go unchallenged. Racism, as I said before I was deleted, is a dark stain on our nation and it stinks.

If you think challenging racism is "causing trouble" then this may well explain the attitude toward my views on this board.

On reflection I think the best thing I can do is go. You won't accept my posts unless they suit you, and as I said to one of the Mods who was kind enough to PM me, I'd rather say nothing than work under censorship. I am sorry it had to be this way.

Pete, it's safe to come back now. Someone told me you'd run off till the new year. That shouldn't happen.

 

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Quote saxoneagle at 13 Dec 2004 11:21am

Sorry to hear that Stef

Just the way it is sometimes .. we all go through it !!


 


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As ever, Saxon makes the most sense on here. (Closely followed by Stef.)

Don't b0llock Sax for it, just this once eh.

Life goes on -- well mine does anyway.

 

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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 13 Dec 2004 11:24am

As ever, Saxon makes the most sense on here. (Closely followed by Stef.)


Ha ha, that's the funniest post EVER Doug! Have you seen most of my posts fella? I make no sense at all 99.9% of the time!

Classic

 

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welcome back HMHS.....

i am looking forward to reading some interest threads on here again.

 


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View Petealiator's Profile Petealiator Flag 1066 Country! 13 Dec 04 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Petealiator Add Petealiator as a friend

Right I'm not gonna sit back and let Penge and HOL take all the blame for this. First of all the username slug was using was offensive to me and I requested it banned, I didn't request the thread removed or even any posts and as Penge said that has not been done, they've simply got it on hold while they discuss it. I don't see why I should see a name like that every time I log on here. Yeah I know I use silly name-throwing tactics in posts far too often, but I wouldn't take it a million miles over the line by adopting a name that was offensive to another member and I certainly wouldn't post anonymously either, if any true colours have been aired on here recently, you won't need to look beyond the person who has caused all this s***.

As for me running away, now that is funny. I'm just not having this s*** over Christmas, that's all, it winds me up far too much and I don't want all this crap spinning around my head at Christmas ruining it for me. I work very hard all year round without f*** all holiday coz I'm self-employed and at Christmas I like to chill and enjoy the season with my family. I'm more than happy to return in January and face any s*** anyone wants to throw at me, but until then I want to thank the many people who've PM'd me their support over this, cheers you lot, have a good Christmas everybody (well, nearly everybody!).
See you all in 2005.


Edited by Petealiator (13 Dec 2004 1:04pm)

 


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