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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 12:46pm

More Voltaire...

"It is the characteristic of the most stringent censorships that they give credibility to the opinions they attack."

Especially when they shout so loudly about freedom of speech of course!

Are you still banging on about this, HMHS? What was it in Rachel or Penge's responses to your complaints that you didn't understand? Nothing, I assume, as you haven't acknowledged them...

On a less tedious note, I for one am surprised that Griffin has been arrested based on the evidence in that programme. My views are diametrically opposed to those of the BNP, but the BBC documentary was one of the most biased and unobjective pieces of "journalism" that I've ever come across.

 


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I think you should read my posts with your eyes open, Moose, as I have answered every point raised by Penge. Something he failed to do with mine, I note.

As for Rachel's late-arriving contribution I have no reply, except perhaps to ask why it was considered OK to move my apparently offensive posts to General Talk, where offensive posts are as unwelcome as they are on C&HAG. Her reply, while factually correct, goes no way to explaining why the thread was moved or deleted. If you found a dog s*** on your bed would you move it onto the sofa? No, because that's an equally unsuitable location. Sorry Rachel I didn't want to say so, but your post is no help whatsoever.

Moose. Don't start getting snippy just because I'm quoting French philosophers at you mate... up to now you'd been quite reasonable about everything.

Tome's post is superb, and while I wanted to address some of Stef's points I will stand aside and refer to Tome's post instead. I await the accusations that he's an Al Qaeda sympathiser etc etc yawn yawn.

Re-reading the entire thread, the next best one is Penge's advising me not to post. I think if people are going to get upset because I've pointed out someone being arrested, or NOT pointing out someone being killed, or (heaven forfend) pointing out something a dead bloke said... then I will follow this advice.

You do make me laugh, you lot.

 

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JollyStef, that's a well thought out, structured and considered response to a sensitive issue.

I didn't think you Belgians had it in you !

Quote JollyStef at 14 Dec 2004 1:18pm

Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 12:38pm

See? They're harmless really. No racists in the BNP, oh no.

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Please post your excuses for Nick Griffin below, including mention that some of his best mates are black; he was misquoted; and like the Greater Manchester copper who advocated shooting all Muslims, it wasn't directed at Muslims.

HMHS give it up man, if only you were just as hard towards extremist Muslims planning attacks on western targets then you would have a case !! In your eyes racism only goes one way (although you try to deny it I haven't seen any condemming of acts towards white people).

Too one-sided, as always !!

If you're that happy with muslims then I suggest you go and live there and try to build a church, or tell them you're a christian.

Man, they even killed an Irish woman who'd been living in Iraq for more than 20 years and who was more Iraqi than Irish or English !

This political correctness is pissing me off .. as I already said in the other thread .. tolerance stops somewhere, I can understand the BNP being a bit more extreme than other people, someone's gotta do it before we politically correct ourselves into oblivion.


 


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Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 3:10pm

I have already explained why the thread you are talking about was removed. If you think I acted in an overzealous way and feel I or others will single you out and edit your future topics then don't post. Otherwise, welcome back to the site and I look forward to your contribution, which as you know in the past I have enjoyed.


Speaking of threads vanishing, what happened to Neillo's daughter "Vote for Me" thread?

 

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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 2:25pm

Tome's post is superb, and while I wanted to address some of Stef's points I will stand aside and refer to Tome's post instead. I await the accusations that he's an Al Qaeda sympathiser etc etc yawn yawn.


High praise indeed

 


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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 2:25pm

Moose. Don't start getting snippy just because I'm quoting French philosophers at you mate... up to now you'd been quite reasonable about everything.

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed - and even learned from - your little foray into Enlightenment philosophy. I just was hoping we'd got over the censorship issue and could carry on the debate at the heart of this thread.

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I think if people are going to get upset because I've pointed out someone being arrested, or NOT pointing out someone being killed, or (heaven forfend) pointing out something a dead bloke said...

I'm sorry, who's getting upset about your stance on Nick Griffin, or about your quoting Voltaire?You surely can't be talking about those who have put a view on this thread that is at odds with your own opinion - after all, that's what discussion is all about! Snippy? Not me, old fruit.

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You do make me laugh, you lot.

Edited by Moose (14 Dec 2004 2:59pm)

 


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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 2:25pm

You do make me laugh, you lot.

Cheers mate, I try my best

 


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Whatever happened to the jovial halfmanhalfslug we used to know and love?

Edited by Penge Eagle (14 Dec 2004 3:10pm)

 


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Quote stu7986 at 14 Dec 2004 2:34pm

Quote Penge Eagle at 13 Dec 2004 3:10pm

I have already explained why the thread you are talking about was removed. If you think I acted in an overzealous way and feel I or others will single you out and edit your future topics then don't post. Otherwise, welcome back to the site and I look forward to your contribution, which as you know in the past I have enjoyed.


Speaking of threads vanishing, what happened to Neillo's daughter "Vote for Me" thread?

It's ok, she emailed me the link

 

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Quote Moose at 14 Dec 2004 2:58pm

I just was hoping we'd got over the censorship issue and could carry on the debate at the heart of this thread.

Fair enough, I can see why you'd want to move on from the censorship issue, having failed to explain the inconsistent actions taken by the HOL board moderators.

The issue which is debated at the heart of this thread was also in a previous thread, which is now gone. A lot of people made a lot of effort to make their points in that thread, but those efforts don't appear to have been respected. For someone who professes to want to carry on that debate, I don't see evidence of that in your post -- just personal remarks about another user.

Neillo's daughter certainly deserves that respect as far as her thread is concerned, even if I don't. Don't you think? After Stu's post, is not censorship now becoming the main thrust of this thread?

Quote Moose at 14 Dec 2004 2:58pm

I'm sorry, who's getting upset about your stance on Nick Griffin, or about your quoting Voltaire?You surely can't be talking about those who have put a view on this thread that is at odds with your own opinion - after all, that's what discussion is all about! Snippy? Not me, old fruit.

Sure thing mate. You're cool.

 

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Quote Penge Eagle at 14 Dec 2004 3:10pm

Whatever happened to the jovial halfmanhalfslug we used to know and love?

He's long gone, and has been replaced by someone who doesn't take empty platitudes and bullsh*t. Or racism.

Merry F*cking Christmas.


 

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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Dec 2004 3:17pm

Quote Penge Eagle at 14 Dec 2004 3:10pm

Whatever happened to the jovial halfmanhalfslug we used to know and love?

He's long gone, and has been replaced by someone who doesn't take empty platitudes and bullsh*t. Or racism.

Merry F*cking Christmas.


What changed then? I see you haven't totally lost your sense of humour!

 


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