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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 17 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

You'd have have thought some of the people on this thread 'support' Man Utd via the tv (or don't watch them at all going by shirts you see out when the cvnts are on tv).

 


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View majorkaios's Profile majorkaios Flag Trowbridge, Wilts 26 Jul 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to majorkaios Add majorkaios as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

I believe buy back clauses are banned in France.

I don't know if this QUOTE is true however maybe we should start a Premier League clubs Suporters petition to contest the fairness and ultimate value to home grown football in the long term for buy back clauses in contracts.

Also if this could force players into virtual service to a club they may since originally signing, now hate but with no route escape. A big moral dilemma there.

I'm sure other fans not from the top Ten regular teams would be as aggrieved and maybe others would also join the debate. So we can then ban it here too.

'Its just not cricket' ) COYP

 


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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 27 Jul 17 12.14am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

a means of converting a transfer into a loan - unfair.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 27 Jul 17 7.44am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

i just see the clause itself like an option that can be negotiated. I work in a world where that's very normal.

I think such options have a place in football.

If Barca want to pay us 5m for the right to buy Wilf for 75m in the next: yeah, give it to Sakho

If Man U want to pay us 1m for the right to buy Wilf for 35m in the next: no f*** off

buying clubs are perfectly entitled to walk away.

I will admit though that some buy backs should be treated as loans by the FA if the buy back is too stingy.

 


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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Jul 17 7.48am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Is there much different in high sell on clauses. I think with the sell on clause that p'boro had we actually didn't make a profit on Dwight Gayle sale to Newcastle.

 


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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 27 Jul 17 7.52am Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Well lets stop keeping up any sort of illusion we are a football club and not a business.....
I shortly will be wearing Gilette and BMW t - shirts and lets welcome the Chinese "investors" with open arms, move to a plastic ground outside the M25 and offer package deals in Japan for homegames. Fabulous business, but by then I will be watching some team in League 2, or no football at all perhaps.

Apart from the fact that your example highlights another point: I do not feel sorry for footballers but maybe it should be Wilf himself who decides where he plays next?

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

i just see the clause itself like an option that can be negotiated. I work in a world where that's very normal.

I think such options have a place in football.

If Barca want to pay us 5m for the right to buy Wilf for 75m in the next: yeah, give it to Sakho

If Man U want to pay us 1m for the right to buy Wilf for 35m in the next: no f*** off

buying clubs are perfectly entitled to walk away.

I will admit though that some buy backs should be treated as loans by the FA if the buy back is too stingy.


Edited by DutchEagleJohan (27 Jul 2017 7.57am)

 

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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 27 Jul 17 8.06am Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

If we bought a player from Barca for say 10 million in summer window who has a buy back clause of 20 m. He plays an absolute blinder for 3 months and Man C offer us 40 m. Can we sell to Man C or do Barca have first refusal at lower amount?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 27 Jul 17 8.07am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

I think with the sell on clause that p'boro had we actually didn't make a profit on Dwight Gayle sale to Newcastle.

Who knows as Steve Parish never quotes figures and it's a well known fact that selling clubs tend to overstate their selling price whilst the buying club understates it when making public pronouncements

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 27 Jul 17 8.51am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Well lets stop keeping up any sort of illusion we are a football club and not a business.....
I shortly will be wearing Gilette and BMW t - shirts and lets welcome the Chinese "investors" with open arms, move to a plastic ground outside the M25 and offer package deals in Japan for homegames. Fabulous business, but by then I will be watching some team in League 2, or no football at all perhaps.

Apart from the fact that your example highlights another point: I do not feel sorry for footballers but maybe it should be Wilf himself who decides where he plays next?


Edited by DutchEagleJohan (27 Jul 2017 7.57am)

Wilf is critical to it. of course he is. just as he is with a transfer.

my point is that these should not be banned. they can be a positive force in the game. can there be tweaks? sure.

I really dislike Chelsea but for the good of the English game their excellent crop of young players need quality minutes. to me, buy options are a means for two clubs to work together and be rewarded for player development. the buying club can and should drive a hard bargain.

for player development, buy options or buy backs offer a better hope than the loan system where the loaned player has to be a lot better than the team he's joining to be assured of game time.


 


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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 27 Jul 17 11.12am Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC1965

If we bought a player from Barca for say 10 million in summer window who has a buy back clause of 20 m. He plays an absolute blinder for 3 months and Man C offer us 40 m. Can we sell to Man C or do Barca have first refusal at lower amount?

No Barc would be able to buy him and then sell him on.

Precisely the same thing happened with Morata. Mardrid sold him to Juventus for £16m with a buy back clause. Then bought him back for £24m and sold him for £60-70m.

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Win win situation for the super club.

Expect these deals to become common place.


Edited by Goldfiinger (27 Jul 2017 11.13am)

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 28 Jul 17 9.07am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Really hope we sell mutch with a buy back clause. One day we gonna need a new catering manager. He'd be perfect.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jul 17 9.17am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Really hope we sell mutch with a buy back clause. One day we gonna need a new catering manager. He'd be perfect.

I bet that you're one of these people that publically insult our players then claim that Palace have the best fans in the Premiership

 

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