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 Stirlingsays  03 Apr 18 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
Rubbish - you can only prove significance with an adequate sample. I'll stick with my judgement thanks. Edited by Direwolf (03 Apr 2018 6.14pm) Edited by Direwolf (03 Apr 2018 6.14pm) You are entitled to your opinion.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 04 Apr 18 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As usual you are wrong. Robinson just recently gave a speech at 'speaker's corner' that had thousands in attendance. Sorry I deleted the rest of your post but it just read like a load of old misplaced nonsense. Robinson isn't a fascist and frankly....if you are a science teacher, your views on it amaze me. What degree do you hold in the sciences? From looking at that video a lot of it looks like antifa which is probably accurate from most of the EDL demos I've experienced. Let's be honest though. That's not a crowd which represents the people. This is:
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Attachment: | Stirlingsays 05 Apr 18 12.57am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
From looking at that video a lot of it looks like antifa which is probably accurate from most of the EDL demos I've experienced. Let's be honest though. That's not a crowd which represents the people. This is:
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| davenotamonkey 05 Apr 18 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
From looking at that video a lot of it looks like antifa which is probably accurate from most of the EDL demos I've experienced. Let's be honest though. That's not a crowd which represents the people. This is: £243-a-go music festival full of drugged-up bourgeois (average age 36) wannabe-hippies/hipsters protected from the outside world by a whacking-great fence? OK then.
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| davenotamonkey 05 Apr 18 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
£243-a-go music festival full of drugged-up bourgeois (average age 36) wannabe-hippies/hipsters protected from the outside world by a whacking-great fence? OK then. To wit: I recall the Glasto immediately after the EU referendum. Admittedly fantastic Muse set, latest album very much centred on supranational interests interfering in our lives, puppet governments, control by distant, shadowy, unaccountable authorities. "There's no country left Pan to crowd. Spaced-out mongs waving their beloved EU flags. Braindead.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 06 Apr 18 10.42am |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
Rubbish - you can only prove significance with an adequate sample. I'll stick with my judgement thanks. --------------------------------------- Sample size is less important than sample variability. Can i suggest you walk through 1% of thornton heath, Luton, or Bedford and tell me the country is being well managed by policymakers. European Culture, Greek mythology. Tommy Robinson is the Hydra. When the islamists kill him, which no doubt they would love to do, two more Tommy's will sprout forward. And stand for 'freedom of speech', democracy, rule of Law, the Protection of the Young, separation of Church and State etc etc Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 Apr 2018 10.59am)
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| 7mins In the bush 06 Apr 18 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This guy seems to be like some taboo subject area. I don't like his past affiliation with football hooliganism. On that he deserves criticism. However, those days aren't now. What has he actually said that deserves this? I bet most of those that hate his guy don't know, they just unthinkingly echo the hyperbolic smears. From what I observe this guy is being prosecuted by his own state when he is one of the few people standing up for western culture. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Apr 2018 3.03pm)
He is able to tap in to peoples fears... he is exploiting them.... but it doesn't mean he sometimes doesn't have a point. Islam isn't compatible with the values of this country... I challenge anyone to say it is. What we need is our politicians to tackle it... if they did... opportunists like TR would go back to being a football hooligan. For me... I'd make every person in this country agree to a code of conduct... It would be to treat every single human as equal, regardless of Gender Failure to do so would result in fines... all money raised goes to a charity. Example: If I can't/refuse to treat Hindus equally... I get fined £250 and it goes to a Hindu based charity. After every conviction... the fine doubles.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Apr 18 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by 7mins
He is able to tap in to peoples fears... he is exploiting them.... but it doesn't mean he sometimes doesn't have a point. Islam isn't compatible with the values of this country... I challenge anyone to say it is. What we need is our politicians to tackle it... if they did... opportunists like TR would go back to being a football hooligan. For me... I'd make every person in this country agree to a code of conduct... It would be to treat every single human as equal, regardless of Gender Failure to do so would result in fines... all money raised goes to a charity. Example: If I can't/refuse to treat Hindus equally... I get fined £250 and it goes to a Hindu based charity. After every conviction... the fine doubles. Not only would that be wrong, it would be unworkable outside of quantitative measures. Who decides upon what constituents 'treating people equally'? Who decides whether something is sexist, racist and so on... We have already seen the massive over-reach of 'perception' politics within the justice system with the conviction of a comedian for a bad taste joke......Any judgement of 'perception' is inherently open to bias and hence flaws. I personally don't like being told that I'm wrong to discriminate between people. That is anti meritocracy. There are physical differences between the sexes for example. All you going to force people using dating agencies to date without discriminating?....'You dated a black girl last week, this week a white girl, the week after a bloke'. I believe in treating people fairly not equally....No two people are actually equal, it's a concept not a reality. I wouldn't be signing. Thought control is not the job of the state in a free society.
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| 7mins In the bush 06 Apr 18 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not only would that be wrong, it would be unworkable outside of quantitative measures. Who decides upon what constituents 'treating people equally'? Who decides whether something is sexist, racist and so on... We have already seen the massive over-reach of 'perception' politics within the justice system with the conviction of a comedian for a bad taste joke......Any judgement of 'perception' is inherently open to bias and hence flaws. I personally don't like being told that I'm wrong to discriminate between people. That is anti meritocracy. There are physical differences between the sexes for example. All you going to force people using dating agencies to date without discriminating?....'You dated a black girl last week, this week a white girl, the week after a bloke'. I believe in treating people fairly not equally....No two people are actually equal, it's a concept not a reality. I wouldn't be signing. Thought control is not the job of the state in a free society.
I mean if someone states "gays shouldn't be able to marry" Fine them If someone states "females shouldn't get the same inheritance as males" fine them. I don't think people should be fined or even criticised for dating white/black men or women. I'm talking about deeply held beliefs by groups or individuals that people should be treated differently based on their race/gender/sexuality/religion.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Apr 18 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by 7mins
I mean if someone states "gays shouldn't be able to marry" Fine them If someone states "females shouldn't get the same inheritance as males" fine them. I don't think people should be fined or even criticised for dating white/black men or women. I'm talking about deeply held beliefs by groups or individuals that people should be treated differently based on their race/gender/sexuality/religion. How about I fine you for your intolerance. I have no problem with someone not liking a group or a gender. I might not agree with someone but it's absurd to punish for a difference in opinion. You are suggesting measures that go completely against free speech. I'm not particularly pro gay marriage myself. I not against it but I'm no flag waver. Principally on the grounds that I view marriage as mainly a contract for the purpose of raising children. I similarly view the marriage of old people as also a bit pointless and purely sentimental. I have gone to these marriages and been happy for the couples but it doesn't change how I view it. According to you, that expressed thought would be met with a fine. And how can you say that it's not ok to express a preference about whether gays should marry or not (there is also a religious aspect to this) but it is ok to state that you don't want to date black or white girls to a dating agency?
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| Midlands Eagle 06 Apr 18 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Fine them If someone states "females shouldn't get the same inheritance as males" fine them. I don't think people should be fined or even criticised for dating white/black men or women. I'm talking about deeply held beliefs by groups or individuals that people should be treated differently based on their race/gender/sexuality/religion. Is it still 1st April?
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| 7mins In the bush 06 Apr 18 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How about I fine you for your intolerance. I have no problem with someone not liking a group or a gender. I might not agree with someone but it's absurd to punish for a difference in opinion. You are suggesting measures that go completely against free speech. I'm not particularly pro gay marriage myself. I not against it but I'm no flag waver. Principally on the grounds that I view marriage as mainly a contract for the purpose of raising children. I similarly view the marriage of old people as also a bit pointless and purely sentimental. I have gone to these marriages and been happy for the couples but it doesn't change how I view it. According to you, that expressed thought would be met with a fine. And how can you say that it's not ok to express a preference about whether gays should marry or not (there is also a religious aspect to this) but it is ok to state that you don't want to date black or white girls to a dating agency?
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