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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Dec 20 10.19am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So what?

If you disagree with something booing is an option.

If there were silence then the pro kneeling could claim everyone accepted what they didn't.

Agreed otherwise you are just shutting down any opposition.

It is perfectly valid to boo at football matches it's part of our culture.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 07 Dec 20 10.21am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed otherwise you are just shutting down any opposition.

It is perfectly valid to boo at football matches it's part of our culture.

Oh come on. Booing a refereeing decision or a sh*t performance is hardly comparable to an anti-racism gesture.

Find it quite staggering some of the justifications you lot will make to yourself that what happened was OK.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Dec 20 10.22am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So what?

If you disagree with something booing is an option.

If there were silence then the pro kneeling could claim everyone accepted what they didn't.

A sizeable amount of referees and players have been the subject of 'Boos' over the years!
Football supporters don't have a record of remaining silent when players or officials have raised their hackles.Furthermore managers have received such treatment!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Dec 20 10.26am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

True, but I choose to largely ignore your posts rather than actively boo them.

Conversely I quite enjoy your posts.....a textbook, kind of innocent social liberalism.

Which I usually mock...admittedly.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 10.29am)

 


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We are at the stage now, that the players/teams cannot stop without fear of being castigated. The FA have to step in an say 'enough is enough'. but then, people will accuse them of racism.

If it was a gesture of KickItOut it'd at least be relevant to football.

Feels like this is going to be here a long time, with noone wanting to stop first. The meaning is being lost now it's common place every weekend, and And I have To say well done Millwall for voicing their disapproval. It may actually start people talking, and move this on.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Dec 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Oh come on. Booing a refereeing decision or a sh*t performance is hardly comparable to an anti-racism gesture.

Find it quite staggering some of the justifications you lot will make to yourself that what happened was OK.

You seem to want a world where people can't express their feelings and opinions.

This is almost like a quasi religion which attempts to replace the traditional religions adopted by the West and then largely rejected. Your kind is like the new Spanish inquisition, persecuting all non believers.

Your indoctrination is complete and like a virus, you want to infect all others with the same illness.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 07 Dec 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Lets all make an assumption that a % of people who take the knee in this manner are doing so with zero knowledge about what BLM actually stands for but instead are doing it as a kindly gesture of solidarity over issues of racism in general.

But perhaps this now causes real confusion and therefore it might be for the best if a new gesture is agreed upon which clears up any notion that this is political?

Probably the sensible solution. It would certainly remove any ambiguity over exactly why they are doing it (and anyone continuing to boo would literally have no excuse).

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 07 Dec 20 10.41am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You seem to want a world where people can't express their feelings and opinions.

This is almost like a quasi religion which attempts to replace the traditional religions adopted by the West and then largely rejected. Your kind is like the new Spanish inquisition, persecuting all non believers.

Your indoctrination is complete and like a virus, you want to infect all others with the same illness.

You don't half spout some utter nonsense.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Dec 20 10.43am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You don't half spout some utter nonsense.

You are a typical case of indoctrination. Your narcissism drives your belief that what you believe has to be right and more, that all others must be prevented from being wrong.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Dec 20 10.43am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Probably the sensible solution. It would certainly remove any ambiguity over exactly why they are doing it (and anyone continuing to boo would literally have no excuse).

No it wouldn't.

That point has been answered numerous times now.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Dec 20 10.55am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Jamie Vardy recently kicked down a corner flag that was being used to display the 'rainbow' flag during a goal celebration.

It's subsequently been used in many dissident right memes and caused much myrth.

It's obviously wasn't intentional however it exposures a problem in football at the moment. Its continual use for social and political messaging. Pretty much all corporations are pushing the same messages.

If you have to bring your politics into football, have a badge on your shirt like the poppy situation and do your politics in your own time not with captive audiences.

Football matches don't exist for your politics.

I said the same thing about 'Tommy Robinson' chants last year.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 10.56am)

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Dec 20 10.55am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

The best solution I can think of is getting rid of taking the knee - as it's literally nothing to do with us. Then we could change 'kick it out' to something far less catchy like 'zero tolerance for racism in football'. Any racism = ban. Not just made up racism because someone didn't kneel. I think most of us wouldn't mind about that. I don't really want racists chanting at football - nor does anyone.

 


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