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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 13 Mar 22 10.42pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are right to mention brexit as increased aggression from Russia was feared as a consequence of leaving europe, the PM stated it himself.

You do realise the EU and NATO are different?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Mar 22 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are right to mention brexit as increased aggression from Russia was feared as a consequence of leaving europe, the PM stated it himself.

What rot.

America and Britain are the most powerful military forces in Western Europe. That has not changed due to Brexit.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 13 Mar 22 11.45pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are right to mention brexit as increased aggression from Russia was feared as a consequence of leaving europe, the PM stated it himself.

You do know that Russian Bear Bombers have flown at our airspace 136 times since 2003? We left the EU in 2020. Typhoons intercepted them every time to turn them back. Its a game of cat and mouse that could one day result in a Russian plane being shot down. Whether we are in the EU or not makes zip difference.

Putin came to power in 2000. Prior to 2003 there were hardly any such incidents.

The sooner Putin gets eliminated the better. The man is a looney.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 13 Mar 22 11.53pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

The government are offering £350 for anyone putting up a refugee for a MONTH! This should be for a week, minimum! They pay £200 a night to house someone in a hotel, but offer £12 a day to the public, who will be expected to feed the refugee and use more heating and hot water, unless Gove expects them to go without, its one thing after another! They will blame the public for not allowing more refugees in, saying where will they go? Well. i have a couple of ideas, firstly, put them in those temporary covid hospitals, and secondly, with hm permission which im sure she would be happy to grant, as shes now permenantly in Windsor, put them up in buckingham palace. 350 rooms, all together so easy to do the paperwork, and great pr for her majesty, who, did not deserve a nonse in the family! In fact, lets cut randy some slack, let him bring up the breakfast at 8 am, to each room, no lift allowed, call the refugee sir or madam- with a strict no touching rule!This should keep him busy, and out of trouble, we don"t need him slipping out in the dead of night around windsor, the police have enough on their hands than to covertly follow him around town.

My wife and I put up before this was announced.

We want to help regardless of the cost. Women and children are suffering while their men fight for their country. I don't give a flying if it costs me a few quid. I will give up a few luxury's. Beer, takeaways, going to restaurants.

They will also get £40/week/person for themselves.

I agree about large empty buildings. They have just built a huge nightingale at William Harvey hospital, Ashford kent. That is not going to be needed (at the moment). It could probably house around 500.

Edited by The groover (13 Mar 2022 11.54pm)

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Mar 22 12.08am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

My wife and I put up before this was announced.

We want to help regardless of the cost. Women and children are suffering while their men fight for their country. I don't give a flying if it costs me a few quid. I will give up a few luxury's. Beer, takeaways, going to restaurants.

They will also get £40/week/person for themselves.

I agree about large empty buildings. They have just built a huge nightingale at William Harvey hospital, Ashford kent. That is not going to be needed (at the moment). It could probably house around 500.

Edited by The groover (13 Mar 2022 11.54pm)

Isn't it queer how most of those scumbags crossing the channel in a dinghy never seem to do just that? How very strange !!

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Mar 22 1.30pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Isn't it queer how most of those scumbags crossing the channel in a dinghy never seem to do just that? How very strange !!

Describing people as scumbags because they dare to try and find a better life for themselves and their families.. stay classy.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Mar 22 1.46pm

Originally posted by The groover

My wife and I put up before this was announced.

We want to help regardless of the cost. Women and children are suffering while their men fight for their country. I don't give a flying if it costs me a few quid. I will give up a few luxury's. Beer, takeaways, going to restaurants.

They will also get £40/week/person for themselves.

I agree about large empty buildings. They have just built a huge nightingale at William Harvey hospital, Ashford kent. That is not going to be needed (at the moment). It could probably house around 500.

Edited by The groover (13 Mar 2022 11.54pm)


Good man, hope the powers to be know about the hospital.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Mar 22 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Describing people as scumbags because they dare to try and find a better life for themselves and their families.. stay classy.

Agreed & apologise for the scumbag part, but the main jist of that is true. None or hardly any of them are staying in their own country to fight & the ones that do should be given preference over the ones that aren't.
As for 'trying to find a better life for themselves & their families' do what millions of the rest of have done & do it legally.

 


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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Describing people as scumbags because they dare to try and find a better life for themselves and their families.. stay classy.


You could open you home to the downtrodden off the street and it would fulfil the same criteria. Yet few who believe in your comment ever do that.

 


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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 14 Mar 22 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

I've been looking at some interior pictures of a captured Russian T-80bvm

And being a bit of a tank nerd I thought I would share what I have found here.

The T-80BVM is allegedly a modern Russian main battle tank that has seen upgrades as recently as 2015 although I'm struggling to see where the money has been spent.

There is absolutely no spalling protection inside the tank.
This can be made up of layers of steel causing fragments to tumble & slow down with each impact, more modern protection would be kevlar, there's stuff beyond this but can't remember the name.

This might go someway as to explain why we see so many decapitated Russian tanks (turret seperating from the Hull).
Modern anti tank shells/rockets etc don't necessarily need to penetrate the tank to disable it, they simply need to hit the armor where the energy of the impact is then transferred inside causing fragments of the armor to break off (spalling) & bounce around inside at hypersonic speed - I'll let you have a guess what that can do to a tank crew...
Couple this with the Russian doctrine of carousel auto loaders where explosive shells circle the crew, the odds of these fragments igniting a shell is highly likely.
Russia clearly favours explosive armor on the outside of the tank however what we have seen is it is useless vs modern anti tank weapons.

The commanders sight has no thermal imaging & limited night vision capability which relies on infa red light to see where he is going, we're talking 1940's tech here, you can buy a set of Gen 1 nods online for about £500 this is effectively the same as these tank commanders are using in battle.
Also seeing as the commander needs to flood the way ahead with ir light to see where he is going/hunting targets it paints a huge target on the back of the tank for any opposing force that happens to also own a set of nods.

The fire control system has been upgraded however its still years behind our Challenger 2 MBT & were replacing chally 2 with chally 3 in the next few years.

All in all Russia have spent quite a bit of money turning the s*** T-80BV into a slightly less s*** T-80BVM with really only an upgraded poweplant, upgraded fire control system & ineffective explosive armor to show for it.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (14 Mar 2022 3.32pm)

 


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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 14 Mar 22 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

T80-BVM's drink about 750 litres of diesel per 100km so you can see how logistics are essential to keep these tanks running

 


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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 14 Mar 22 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

T80-BVM's drink about 750 litres of diesel per 100km so you can see how logistics are essential to keep these tanks running

off the top of my head range is approx 200 miles before running dry.

 

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