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BlueJay  UK 26 Feb 21 5.09pm |
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The right decision by the Supreme Court. I understand the argument about her age but if someone can be led astray to this drastic extent then it can easily happen again. There are some decisions that, once made, you cannot simply row back.
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 Matov  26 Feb 21 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
There are some decisions that, once made, you cannot simply row back.
To withdraw her citizenship, despite having been born in this country, is in my opinion a complete over-reach. What she did or who she did it with are only considerations in terms of how she should be treated by the state. But for the state to wash its hands of her without recourse to the legal system? And strip her of a nationality she is as qualified for as the rest of us? Utterly wrong. A real concern for anybody who believes the Government needs to be held constantly to account. A day over 18 then absolutely. But she was not. She was a child.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Feb 21 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
To withdraw her citizenship, despite having been born in this country, is in my opinion a complete over-reach. What she did or who she did it with are only considerations in terms of how she should be treated by the state. But for the state to wash its hands of her without recourse to the legal system? And strip her of a nationality she is as qualified for as the rest of us? Utterly wrong. A real concern for anybody who believes the Government needs to be held constantly to account. A day over 18 then absolutely. But she was not. She was a child. NO she wasnt. she was 20.
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| Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 21 6.04pm |
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I think Matov was talking about her age when she left
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| Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 21 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Short answer Spidey . . . NO. Why should the British taxpayer fork out for food/clothing/TV/internet etc etc. She can stay where she is as far as im concerned & i really dont give a flying shyte that she was 'only' 15 when she made a conscious decision to fcuk off to Syria to breed & join in killing UK citizens. I agree. No normal 15 year old uses their siblings passport, travels through Europe into Syria. She may have been groomed but no one was forcing her to go
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 becky over the moon 26 Feb 21 6.14pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
To withdraw her citizenship, despite having been born in this country, is in my opinion a complete over-reach. What she did or who she did it with are only considerations in terms of how she should be treated by the state. But for the state to wash its hands of her without recourse to the legal system? And strip her of a nationality she is as qualified for as the rest of us? Utterly wrong. A real concern for anybody who believes the Government needs to be held constantly to account. A day over 18 then absolutely. But she was not. She was a child.
She was 15 going on 16 - so if she classes as too young to make a considered decision over her actions, let's not hear anymore nonsense about lowering the voting age to 16 eh?
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| DanH SW2 26 Feb 21 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by becky
She was 15 going on 16 - so if she classes as too young to make a considered decision over her actions, let's not hear anymore nonsense about lowering the voting age to 16 eh? So by the same token if she did know what she was doing then 15 year olds going on 16 should be allowed to vote?
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| DanH SW2 26 Feb 21 6.22pm |
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Very complicated situation but if you take emotion out of it the fact that a British citizen can be rendered stateless sets a very dangerous precedent.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 26 Feb 21 6.32pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Very complicated situation but if you take emotion out of it the fact that a British citizen can be rendered stateless sets a very dangerous precedent. Not as dangerous as the threats she made to her country and it's citizens when she took the decision to leave and marry into IS. In my very humble opinion.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Feb 21 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I think Matov was talking about her age when she left Sorry, i thought he was banging on about when she was stripped of her citizenship(aged 20) NOT when she knowingly took a considered decision to leave the UK & go and be used to breed for Deasch, therefore aiding isis to attack & murder UK citizens(aged 15)
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| Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 21 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Very complicated situation but if you take emotion out of it the fact that a British citizen can be rendered stateless sets a very dangerous precedent. That would be the British Citizen who made it quite clear what she thought of Britain and the West then? If IS were still in existence and chopping heads off at random, do you honestly believe she would want to crawl back? I don’t think so.
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| Stirlingsays 26 Feb 21 6.54pm |
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She isn't British in my eyes and she has no allegiance to Britain either....on the contrary she worked against it as its enemy. People who hold onto higher moralistic principles against their enemies never had to pick up broken bodies. Their positions are luxuries that are just taken advantage of and are perceived as weakness.
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