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Quite the statement when the Saudi’s start doing their own sketches!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Quite the statement when the Saudi’s start doing their own sketches!

It would be quite the improvement over the reality.

Harris looked like he could handle himself.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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W12 22 Apr 22 9.38am

If ever you needed proof that western governments are not run by their representative leaders then Biden is it.

 

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This wasn't even the 1st of April: [Link]

 


Red and Blue Army!

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 Apr 22 11.33pm

Fascinating that Musk has actually bought Twitter. I seriously thought it was just another move to gain publicity. Will be fascinating to see what direction he tales it in with his professed focus on freedom of speech. Real potential to shake up the Social Media space..

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Fascinating that Musk has actually bought Twitter. I seriously thought it was just another move to gain publicity. Will be fascinating to see what direction he tales it in with his professed focus on freedom of speech. Real potential to shake up the Social Media space..

Edited by BlueJay (25 Apr 2022 11.33pm)

Twitter has already crumpled several careers; more freedom of speech for attention desperate celebrities and politicians is just giving them more rope.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Fascinating that Musk has actually bought Twitter. I seriously thought it was just another move to gain publicity. Will be fascinating to see what direction he tales it in with his professed focus on freedom of speech. Real potential to shake up the Social Media space..

Edited by BlueJay (25 Apr 2022 11.33pm)

This really deserves its own thread, as it is bigger than just the USA. When I first heard it was really going to happen, I was fearful it would lead to a decrease in moderation and the growth of conspiracy theories, lies and hate speech.

Having heard a well-informed friend of Musk's, and fellow Twitter user and investor, earlier say that whilst he is a "free-speech" fundamentalist, that doesn't mean that moderation won't still be done. In fact, it may well increase, but it's purpose and policies will be open, as will its algorithms. So long as someone like Trump follows the rules, he will not be banned but break them and his posts will be summarily removed.

It seems his primary target is to remove the "bot" fake accounts spreading disinformation and interfering with democracy as a consequence, as many originate in Russia. That has got to be a good thing. So although the right are celebrating, maybe their joy is a little misplaced. Let's see.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 26 Apr 22 3.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This really deserves its own thread, as it is bigger than just the USA. When I first heard it was really going to happen, I was fearful it would lead to a decrease in moderation and the growth of conspiracy theories, lies and hate speech.

Having heard a well-informed friend of Musk's, and fellow Twitter user and investor, earlier say that whilst he is a "free-speech" fundamentalist, that doesn't mean that moderation won't still be done. In fact, it may well increase, but it's purpose and policies will be open, as will its algorithms. So long as someone like Trump follows the rules, he will not be banned but break them and his posts will be summarily removed.

It seems his primary target is to remove the "bot" fake accounts spreading disinformation and interfering with democracy as a consequence, as many originate in Russia. That has got to be a good thing. So although the right are celebrating, maybe their joy is a little misplaced. Let's see.

There has to be a degree of moderation yes, else everything ends up lowest common denominator. Those looking to perpetually, intentionally agitate will likely will weeded out, alongside rule ensuring adherence to law. Beyond that I'm sure he'll push forward with ID being connected to accounts which will get rid of an awful lot of the nonsense, dissuade a decent percentage of cowards from mouthing off, shut down bots etc. In theory it should encourage more considered debate and diversity of opinion but time will tell - after all it is Twitter!

Yes, I'd agree that getting rid of bots will make a real difference and that an independent and balanced fact check type system will likely still be in place to highlight or downgrade otherwise popular posts that are blatantly false (though i think there should be a high threshold to what is considered false, to avoid it being too opinion based).

There are (less popular) social networks out there that actively encourage commonality and elevate common ground rather than either put people at loggerheads or make simplistic echo chamber outlooks overly attractive which is the current business model. That would be a useful departure from what we currently see, but ultimately as Musk has significant control it will probably come down to using it whatever way he feels is personally beneficial to himself and his businesses.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This really deserves its own thread, as it is bigger than just the USA. When I first heard it was really going to happen, I was fearful it would lead to a decrease in moderation and the growth of conspiracy theories, lies and hate speech.

Having heard a well-informed friend of Musk's, and fellow Twitter user and investor, earlier say that whilst he is a "free-speech" fundamentalist, that doesn't mean that moderation won't still be done. In fact, it may well increase, but it's purpose and policies will be open, as will its algorithms. So long as someone like Trump follows the rules, he will not be banned but break them and his posts will be summarily removed.

It seems his primary target is to remove the "bot" fake accounts spreading disinformation and interfering with democracy as a consequence, as many originate in Russia. That has got to be a good thing. So although the right are celebrating, maybe their joy is a little misplaced. Let's see.

But I thought you considered yourself on the right as a one nation conservative - mask slipping?

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

But I thought you considered yourself on the right as a one nation conservative - mask slipping?

One nation conservatives, like me, stand on the central political ground. We are centre right, whilst people like Blair are centre left. Both often have more in common with each other than those on the extremities.

When I speak of the "right" I am describing those on the extreme who self identify that way, or who try to camouflage themselves in cute marketing terminology, like "nationalist", "alt-right", "patriotic-alternative", etc.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

One nation conservatives, like me, stand on the central political ground. We are centre right, whilst people like Blair are centre left. Both often have more in common with each other than those on the extremities.

When I speak of the "right" I am describing those on the extreme who self identify that way, or who try to camouflage themselves in cute marketing terminology, like "nationalist", "alt-right", "patriotic-alternative", etc.

Like you camouflaging yourself as a 'one nation conservative'. You are about as conservative as Angela Rayner's legs.

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Originally posted by georgenorman

Like you camouflaging yourself as a 'one nation conservative'. You are about as conservative as Angela Rayner's legs.

Edited by georgenorman (26 Apr 2022 10.03pm)

I don't know how old you are, but I spent the first half of my life with a Tory Party that might have been traditional, but also had morals and standards of what being in public life meant. That was a one Nation party.

I respected that Party and voted for it many times. Thatcher destroyed some of that respect, even if there were things she did that were absolutely necessary. It was Thatcher who, in my opinion, and with hindsight, started us on the course which brought us to where we are today. Her "there's no such thing as society", privatisation of essential national assets and the selling off of council houses, can now be seen as the precursors of many of today's ills.

 


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