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PatrickA Flag London 19 Oct 20 11.53am

I can’t see him going this season unless we have a similar run to the end of last season and look like we’re struggling in the bottom 3.
When Parish has acted before in the case of De Boer and Warnock it appeared that certain key elements of the dressing room weren’t behind the manager and briefing Parish on the discontent.
I am not sure that Parish has the same relationship with the current crop of players, and in any event most of the players seem behind Roy.
Games are being played behind closed doors so the fans’ discontent is being largely played out online which is unlikely to concern Parish too much.
If we keep the current points to games ratio we are likely to stay up comfortably.
So more of the same I’m afraid as Roy definitely won’t change his approach.

 

PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 19 Oct 20 1.28pm

Originally posted by Arthur Waite

Like some others today, I don’t believe Eddie Howe is the answer. Not sure who is, but it needs an new injection of ideas, strategy, tactics, and a platform to allow some skilful, creative footballers to flourish.

Again, I would agree that Hodgson staying on in some capacity would be a wrong move too.

I hope Mr Parish reads this forum so he knows what fans actually think!



i can imagine sp giving the chairmen of charlton and stoke call and saying the fans are going doolally about rh and asking for advice.it would be something like this - steve old chap whatever you do don't listen to them unless you want to end up like us and regret it. and if you did then most of them would leave you and you'll end with no crowds to speak of, no money and no decent players either.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 Oct 20 1.46pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle



i can imagine sp giving the chairmen of charlton and stoke call and saying the fans are going doolally about rh and asking for advice.it would be something like this - steve old chap whatever you do don't listen to them unless you want to end up like us and regret it. and if you did then most of them would leave you and you'll end with no crowds to speak of, no money and no decent players either.

How bad do we have to get before you’d accept a change is needed? Are results the only consideration, or should performances also be looked at?

How many Palace games have you enjoyed watching in the last 24 months?

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 19 Oct 20 2.04pm

Originally posted by Willo

I wholeheartedly concur.

At home we have played 3 PL games, scored 3 goals, 1 from the penalty spot.Our possession stats in these games :
Southampton 29%, Everton 42% and against Brighton 34%.

I believe that supporters have had enough, there is only so much we can take.

and the best of those teams was Everton who we played well against and had the best possession stats (for us). We had a go against them. I accept that against Soton we were happy to let them play suicide defending.
It's crazy that we have to sit back against Brighton just because they play Potterball and we don't seem to know how to get the ball off them. (Was the same at home against them last year).
Will someone please tell Parish that we fans pay good money to be entertained for at least some of the match!

 

Den1923 Flag 19 Oct 20 2.46pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Why would you reward a failing manager with a cushy job? I see your intention is to try and be respectful, and perhaps two years ago we could have asked Roy to help with a managed transition but we are currently on a run of 2 wins in 13.

No manager worth his salt would accept a role in a job where the old manger is still lingering around.

Not sure if Howe is the right man for the job, but we have an established, experienced, and professional group of players. Even if he doesn't succeed, it's very unlikely we'd get relegated with the squad we have. Worth a punt.

That is very bold and optimistic statement, hope it does not come back to haunt you!

 

Arthur Waite Flag Portsmouth 19 Oct 20 3.01pm

Doom bear made a good point, which may have been forgotten.

Fans pay good money to be entertained.

The Brighton match was NOT a one off. When Hodgson speaks it is always about trying to avoid relegation. I know every team wants to get to 38-40 points and I get that, but we never have any ambitious chat or aspirations to get well into the top half. Aspirations and expectations are far too low and this negative 'drip feed' affects players and fans.

Hodgson was right yesterday when he said that this is the best squad in his time. Now is the time for leadership and ambition.

The fans are a powerful body. It seems to me that there is a great deal of discontent.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 20 3.08pm

Originally posted by Arthur Waite

Doom bear made a good point, which may have been forgotten.

Fans pay good money to be entertained.

The Brighton match was NOT a one off. When Hodgson speaks it is always about trying to avoid relegation. I know every team wants to get to 38-40 points and I get that, but we never have any ambitious chat or aspirations to get well into the top half. Aspirations and expectations are far too low and this negative 'drip feed' affects players and fans.

Hodgson was right yesterday when he said that this is the best squad in his time. Now is the time for leadership and ambition.

The fans are a powerful body. It seems to me that there is a great deal of discontent.

I believe our Home supporters would like to feel more comfortable instead of biting our nails until the final whistle.
Last season we won a meagre 6 games at home and 5 of them were by the single goal, ie 1-0,2-1,1-0,1-0,1-0.The only home game we won by more than a solitary goal was when we defeated Norwich 2-0 and of course they finished rock-bottom.

 

spartakev2 Flag Anerley 19 Oct 20 5.32pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle



i can imagine sp giving the chairmen of charlton and stoke call and saying the fans are going doolally about rh and asking for advice.it would be something like this - steve old chap whatever you do don't listen to them unless you want to end up like us and regret it. and if you did then most of them would leave you and you'll end with no crowds to speak of, no money and no decent players either.

I've read some stupid posts lately, but this one beats them all

 

PatrickA Flag London 19 Oct 20 5.54pm

It seems to me that people are currently more disappointed than they were during that terrible losing run at the end of the season.
Even erstwhile Hodgson fans are questioning his methods despite us having a reasonable points total this season.
It may be because we have essentially surrendered in our last two games with only one shot on target.
Perhaps people were hoping for more with the addition of new signings to lead to more adventurous football.
But one thing is for sure ; the new signings will have to adapt to Roy as opposed to the other way round.
If Eze doesn’t support the full back defensively he won’t play regardless of what he offers going forward.
If Batshuayi doesn’t offer the defensive qualities and work rate of Ayew he won’t be used other than as an impact sub, even if he offers more than Ayew as a finisher.

 

Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 19 Oct 20 5.57pm

The old be careful what you wish for brigade have a point. We could drop out of the prem playing exciting football that sees us getting beat - but only just every week like Bournemouth. I think there is a balance to be struck between solid defence and showing some attacking intent. I just know that Roy will not suddenly become a different manager because we drew with Brighton. He won’t change - he can’t chance.

I think Dyche Is a good fit for us and when you consider the very limited resources at his disposal when Burnley qualified for Europe I think he could do a very decent job at the Palace with the quality on offer.

 

PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 19 Oct 20 6.07pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

I've read some stupid posts lately, but this one beats them all

that's because you are too fecking stupid to think it wouldn't happen to us if roy was sacked now. is that what you want.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Oct 20 6.13pm

Why do some think it has to be Roy’s way or relegation. I reckon we have a half decent squad and I do not think we would be worse off if a different manager was looking after the same group of players. I’m sure some on here think we can play nothing except dull defensive football. I simply don’t buy that.

 

jeeagles Flag 19 Oct 20 6.21pm

Originally posted by Elphers40

The old be careful what you wish for brigade have a point. We could drop out of the prem playing exciting football that sees us getting beat - but only just every week like Bournemouth. I think there is a balance to be struck between solid defence and showing some attacking intent. I just know that Roy will not suddenly become a different manager because we drew with Brighton. He won’t change - he can’t chance.

I think Dyche Is a good fit for us and when you consider the very limited resources at his disposal when Burnley qualified for Europe I think he could do a very decent job at the Palace with the quality on offer.

Burnley have done a very impressive job over recent years to getting themselves in the premiership twice, sticking with a good manager when they were relegated and consistently outperming. Turf Moor is around 15% smaller than Selhurst and would suspect over all they have an income around 25% smaller than ours yet still turn a small profit based on the low player turnover and low wages.

Their board like ours have recently invested in training facilities and are looking to expand the Cricket Field stand. Yet they are being slated by fans for not spending money they probably don't have.

All sounds pretty familiar.

IF we could prize Dyche away I think improve the club in a sustainable way. It would greatly increase the chances of Burnley being relegated.

As an outside bet, David Wagner is available. Didn't do a great job at Schalke though. Don't know enough about German football to confirm the reason for it.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 20 6.30pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Burnley have done a very impressive job over recent years to getting themselves in the premiership twice, sticking with a good manager when they were relegated and consistently outperming. Turf Moor is around 15% smaller than Selhurst and would suspect over all they have an income around 25% smaller than ours yet still turn a small profit based on the low player turnover and low wages.

Their board like ours have recently invested in training facilities and are looking to expand the Cricket Field stand. Yet they are being slated by fans for not spending money they probably don't have.

All sounds pretty familiar.

IF we could prize Dyche away I think improve the club in a sustainable way. It would greatly increase the chances of Burnley being relegated.

As an outside bet, David Wagner is available.
Didn't do a great job at Schalke though. Don't know enough about German football to confirm the reason for it.

I'm afraid there is no vacancy at present and unlikely to be in the foreseeable future.

In the meantime, we will all be reduced to slack-jawed somnolence watching the players admiring the opponents having the lion's share of the possession.

 

jeeagles Flag 19 Oct 20 6.44pm

Originally posted by Willo

I'm afraid there is no vacancy at present and unlikely to be in the foreseeable future.

In the meantime, we will all be reduced to slack-jawed somnolence watching the players admiring the opponents having the lion's share of the possession.

We don't have fans in the stadium to express their rage, or respected senior players like Delaney who can ask the chairman what the f*** is going on.

Roy's reaction in the post match interview seems to show he has no real idea of just how angry fans would have been if they were in Selhurst to see sundays performance.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 20 6.50pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

We don't have fans in the stadium to express their rage, or respected senior players like Delaney who can ask the chairman what the f*** is going on.

Roy's reaction in the post match interview seems to show he has no real idea of just how angry fans would have been if they were in Selhurst to see sundays performance.

He was upbeat, smiling and appeared 'Tickled pink' by our defensive organisation.
He would have faced shot and shell walking back to the dressing room at the end of the game if there were supporters in the stadium.

Our style of football has killed my enjoyment of watching the team I have supported through thick and thin since the 60s.

 

Arthur Waite Flag Portsmouth 19 Oct 20 6.51pm

I am glad I am not alone in my views!

I agree that Sean Dyche could be a good fit in taking the club forward.

At the end of the day, it is about Mr. Parish!


Disgruntled, depressed, unhappy, Palace fan!

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 19 Oct 20 7.08pm

Lose against Fulham and Roy should definitely go

Bring in the ginger one or the unfinished business one

 

redshift Flag Toronto 19 Oct 20 7.37pm

Let's be realistic. No one's going anywhere right now. Our playing uninspired boring football is not going to cause changes. If we can manage to sputter along and look like we're going to stay up things will stay as they are and that's probably acceptable to management since we stay up means we keep the TV revenues coming in (at least in the current Covid world).

There will only be a change if we look like we are in danger of getting relegated whether from our continued inept play or Roy loses the locker room, the players stop playing for him and that puts us in relegation danger. So, probably from now until after Christmas, we're going to have to be content with watching something similar to the way we played Brighton, again, every week, if we can stomach it.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 19 Oct 20 7.48pm

Originally posted by Arthur Waite

I am glad I am not alone in my views!

I agree that Sean Dyche could be a good fit in taking the club forward.

At the end of the day, it is about Mr. Parish!


Disgruntled, depressed, unhappy, Palace fan!

Just watched Burnley v West Brom a turgid boring game, why people are calling for Dyche is a mystery, he plays exactly the same style as Roy.

What Chairman is going to sack a mid table manager, who ensured stability for 3 years?

 

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