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EU law over UK law means we leave no deal according to this article. Has Boris played a blinder here!!
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But the majority of people do vote for whoever is standing for a particular party. This accounts for a large number of no marks and wastes of space in the HoC. How people reach their decision on who to vote for is entirely their personal choice. What it doesn't do is change the responsibilities of an MP whose job is to represent everyone in their constituency to the best of their abilities and not to look after the interests of only those who voted for them.
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
EU law over UK law means we leave no deal according to this article. Has Boris played a blinder here!! I heard this recently. I still think Boris is hoping for a deal but it would be ironic if the Remainers were hosted by their own petard. No doubt Gina Miller is already preparing her court case if this happens.
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Originally posted by Lyons550
How are they putting themselves and their careers on the line for us? Those that refuse to be whipped risk deselection, and those that leave their party because it's views have move away from them, all risk losing their jobs. It's easy to just be a sheep and follow the leader. Others who speak out are facing physical threats. They do this for us and not for themselves.
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Originally posted by susmik
You would never believe it with some of the repetitive sh1t you put on here time again and again. If you actually bothered to stop the negativity and insults and started to really read my posts you will see that I try to address this seriously, make some suggestions and also ask questions. It's very far from just constant repetition, although some folk seem incapable of seeing that. When people repeat what I believe to be false claims then naturally they generate repeat denials. If those claims cease so will the need for the denials. You, along with everyone else have a free choice whether to read what I write, or not, and to laugh at it if you want to. It matters not a jot to me.
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Originally posted by Badger11
Those people are called independents. No they aren't. They are called MPs. Every MP has exactly the same responsibility as any other. Their party affiliation gets them the ticket in the first place, provides support in getting elected and subsequently. What it doesn't do is change the fundamental responsibility of any MP. Party loyalty is a convention and not a legal duty.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Those that refuse to be whipped risk deselection, and those that leave their party because it's views have move away from them, all risk losing their jobs. It's easy to just be a sheep and follow the leader. Others who speak out are facing physical threats. They do this for us and not for themselves. Not much has changed then - It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money. Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter’d your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No they aren't. They are called MPs. Every MP has exactly the same responsibility as any other. Their party affiliation gets them the ticket in the first place, provides support in getting elected and subsequently. What it doesn't do is change the fundamental responsibility of any MP. Party loyalty is a convention and not a legal duty. So Boris Johnson is taken to court over the 350m. What about those MPS who change parties or fail to act on their promises? They should be prosecuted for misrepresentation. If they have no duty or obligation to their party they should stop using those labels.
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
EU law over UK law means we leave no deal according to this article. Has Boris played a blinder here!! I would have expected such things have already been considered and prepared for. As it is not just the wording of a law which matters, but the intent which underlies it, any attempt to circumvent it by chicanery would quickly attract the attention of the Supreme Court. The EU would also not wish to see a legal trip wire being used to thwart the intentions of the UK Parliament so would find a way to overcome anything like this. Nothing is certain at the moment but that looks like straw clutching to me.
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Looks like the Irish don't like the Boris plan So come on Leo what's your brilliant solution, oh the UK shouldn't leave.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I would have expected such things have already been considered and prepared for. As it is not just the wording of a law which matters, but the intent which underlies it, any attempt to circumvent it by chicanery would quickly attract the attention of the Supreme Court. The EU would also not wish to see a legal trip wire being used to thwart the intentions of the UK Parliament so would find a way to overcome anything like this. Nothing is certain at the moment but that looks like straw clutching to me. It's clearly a legal matter but as the article pointed out if the UK parliament tried to end freedom of movement the UK courts would strike down that law as EU law supersedes it. This is the problem when Parliament rushes through laws in a matter of days. Wiser and cooler heads might point out that their are implications that parliament has not considered. I have no idea if any of this is true but it would be delicious if it was.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How people reach their decision on who to vote for is entirely their personal choice. What it doesn't do is change the responsibilities of an MP whose job is to represent everyone in their constituency to the best of their abilities and not to look after the interests of only those who voted for them. People do vote for a party rather than an individual almost every time. The idea being that the selected candidate will endorse the policies of that party. They don’t vote for maverick MPs who then do whatever they want because they think it’s best.
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