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Originally posted by PatrickA
This thread started on 6 October 2020 so is celebrating it's 6 month anniversary. I think I've changed Patrick. I was previously leaning to Roy out and that we'd needed to dump him to advance. While that's still true imo I take a more nuanced approach and think Roy has been doing exactly what management wants him to do, stay in the EPL without huge spend and given those parameters has been doing the best job anyone could expect one to do. For the future we need new blood as manager but only when the BoD decides to take off the restraints and that now is the time to make the on-field product better. Until then, what we see is what we get. So, I'm Roy in until the decision is made to have definite goals that would require us to improve the team. Then we can change.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
This thread started on 6 October 2020 so is celebrating it's 6 month anniversary. It's an interesting question Patrick, and, as someone else has said the levels of hysteria about this particular issue have thankfully settled somewhat. Like many on here I wasn't a big fan before he joined Palace, but I do believe he's done well and kept us in the league with very little resources. His style of play isn't exciting, but I do want us to still be competing with the big teams next season. So, how we achieve that is irrelevant to me. The fact is that since this thread started, and it was actually before I registered to have my two penneth, I have not changed my view. He must stay until his contract expires at least. We do need fresh blood at the club both in the management and the players. But, to even think about him ending his time with us at this point is unthinkable. At the same time as trying to tap this out I am watching Spurs beating Fulham and at half time Jake Humphrey remarked about how crazy this season has been. So, crazy season, limited resources, injuries - all contribute to the current situation we are in. But, 34 points and 13th in the Premiership doesn't look too bad to me. Keep Calm lads and carry on till we can make change for the better, not just because we don't like the way we're playing. Don't know where this will fit in. I keep being distracted by the match. Fulham are not half bad, just can't find the net. Spurs on Sunday, that's another matter.
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In defence of Roy, every team has looked terrible to me, its like the players have just had enough now, need the fans back. City haven't been better than they was the last couple of seasons they just have enough world class players that atleast one will play out of their skin every game. The football is still terrible and take into account his age, the massive changes needed to the squad, we would be stupid to stick with him, get a new young manager with his own visions and cross our fingers and hope it works out.
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Roy will leave at the end of this season he will walk away with his head held high. He’s done another fantastic job. Huge respect from me. Best manager ever.
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Well one of.
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Roy will leave at the end of this season he will walk away with his head held high. He’s done another fantastic job. Huge respect from me. Best manager ever. Agree,done an amazing job keeping us up, given limited budget and deserves a long and happy retirement.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
This thread started on 6 October 2020 so is celebrating it's 6 month anniversary. I have changed my mind Patrick, yes. Prior to this season I was very much of the mind that Roy should stay, hoping that the performances and return of one point from eight games at the end of last season was very much an exception. The two pathetic cup exits and our performances against Chelsea, Brighton (x2), Wolves, Leeds, Burnley (x2), Newcastle, Liverpool, Villa and Fulham have all been an advertisement of why NOT to go and watch the team. The most awful, dull and embarrassing performances, during which recently the commentators and pundits have just been laughing at us. I fully respect the views of those who would like him to stay and serve up yet more of the same, purely to survive in the PL but for me It’s time for a change.
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Pundits and others have laughed at us all of the years I have supported Palace.
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Interesting comment by Roy in the press conference when asked about all of the players whose contracts are expiring and whether or not they will be renewed I can't answer what will happen to those players or what route the club will take - if you want an answer to that, you've got to speak to the policy makers and I'm an employee, not a policy maker
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Thank you ME, interesting indeed, sounds like he’s off.
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I would come under the `has changed his mind category` from stay to go. Thats just the headline though. The reality is I felt and said he should stay when the thread started and that every manager has a natural lifetime and imo we were not at that point but it would come. I think it has come with various factors aligning.
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
Thank you ME, interesting indeed, sounds like he’s off. I have felt this for a few weeks, in particular this last period.
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