Now who is twisting words.

You said that the government is more dangerous to our way of life than Muslim Extremism, followed by a typical apologist statement that you know many Muslims, all of whom abhor extremist violence.

I think both statements are bollocks and are just part of your agenda as a contrarian.

I think that ignoring the rise of Muslim extremism is very dangerous and apologists like yourself hold double standards. You profess to hate discrimination yet apologise for extremists who want to see women marginalised and gays stoned.

Hope that clears it up for you Gusset.

I don't know how some of you lot would have coped in the 70's with IRA bombs going off in London every other month for years.

Muslim extremism is a hundred times the danger to other muslims in their own country than it is to us lot in Blighty.

pakistan, Nigeria, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan - pity those poor tens of millions of souls wanting a peaceful family life not conflict and stop wetting yer pants about something that is not going to happen to you.

I don't know how some of you lot would have coped in the 70's with IRA bombs going off in London every other month for years.

Muslim extremism is a hundred times the danger to other muslims in their own country than it is to us lot in Blighty.

pakistan, Nigeria, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan - pity those poor tens of millions of souls wanting a peaceful family life not conflict and stop wetting yer pants about something that is not going to happen to you.

Top 10 terrorists groups worldwide in 2012.

6 were Islamic fundamentalist types

4 were not (FARC,PKK, Indian Maoist, FLNC)

Edited by Kermit8 (17 Jun 2014 11.56am)

I was working right near Liverpool station when the Bishopsgate bomb went off....My brother did two tours in NI...So that reference is really quite annoying Kermit and in my case quite wrong.

Your post is atypical of those on the left who push forward the approach that Islamic extremism here is overblown.

It's a problem here....much more than for any other religion and us taxpayers have to pay through the nose for our security services to watch British Islamic nutters.

It is the usual playing down of Islamic extremism by the lib/left - only the USA, Israel and the West in general are thought by them to be evil. There is practically no level of atrocity that will move them to criticism of these appalling people. It is very similar to the left wing apologists of Stalin in the 1930s.

Edited by aceedi (17 Jun 2014 12.32pm)

It is the usual playing down of Islamic extremism by the lib/left - only the USA, Israel and the West in general are thought by them to be evil. There is practically no level of atrocity that will move them to criticism of these appalling people. It is very similar to the left wing apologists of Stalin in the 1930s.

Edited by aceedi (17 Jun 2014 12.32pm)

1. Answer the question. You said I said Cameron is responsible for all of it. Where did I say that?
2. You imply that I am lying about knowing many Muslims who abhor extremism. Is this in the same way you accused me of lying about my father's stroke a while back?
3.Where have I apologised for extremists? I may have spoken for Muslims who abhor extremism but have never defended extremist Muslims. If I have, please show us.
4. I do think that successive governments have been detrimental to the way of life for a lot of people with their neoliberal agenda. I am not alone. Come and speak to other like minded people on Saturday at 1pm.Portland Place.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Jun 2014 11.48am)

Here we go.

The problem is Gusset, it is very difficult to believe someone who trots out the classic racists excuse 'some of my friends are [enter ethnicity to suit argument]'. I am not saying you are a racist before you twist that, I am saying your argument is cliched.

I have answered about the Cameron comment and you either don't wish to understand what I said or understand it.

You are apologising for extremists. You state that the government is more dangerous than extremists to our way of life. That is total bollocks.

Gusset, you are a middle class contrarian rebelling against the state because you want too. Your argument on this subject, like so many others, do not stand up to scrutiny. However, sticking your head in the sand is your business and your choice.

Rather than liken Islam to Nazism, it is probably more accurate to draw parallels to the western past in general. It seems to me that Christianity, centuries ago, carried out much the same sort of atrocities, i.e. Catholic/Protestant & Christianity/Islam. As a race we seem to be incapable of learning the lessons of our own past.
Until human beings realise that all religion is nothing more than superstitious claptrap based, primarily, on the fear that death means ceasing to exist, "believers" will continue to forcibly inflict their views on others in total disregard to the teachings of their religions.