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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 10.15pm

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The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.

 

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The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.


No, please, don't hide behind your 'everyone who agrees with the status quo is a 'cund' dogma.

Please explain to me how David Cameron makes people blow up tube trains. Please explain how David Cameron makes middle class Asian kids go to Syria and kill people not aligned to their viewpoint. Please explain to me how supporting an outdated set of ideals which makes women walk four paces behind their husband and not be allowed to have an education is somehow better than what women in Britain are allowed to have.

Please explain this and how David Cameron is responsible for all of it.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 11.11pm

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The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.


No, please, don't hide behind your 'everyone who agrees with the status quo is a 'cund' dogma.

Please explain to me how David Cameron makes people blow up tube trains. Please explain how David Cameron makes middle class Asian kids go to Syria and kill people not aligned to their viewpoint. Please explain to me how supporting an outdated set of ideals which makes women walk four paces behind their husband and not be allowed to have an education is somehow better than what women in Britain are allowed to have.

Please explain this and how David Cameron is responsible for all of it.


He isn't is he? You think Cameron is responsible for all of it?
Good to see you have reached d in the dictionary though.

 

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Half time orange slices?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Jun 14 11.32pm

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Half time orange slices?


and a glass of Muslimfast

 

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The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.


No, please, don't hide behind your 'everyone who agrees with the status quo is a 'cund' dogma.

Please explain to me how David Cameron makes people blow up tube trains. Please explain how David Cameron makes middle class Asian kids go to Syria and kill people not aligned to their viewpoint. Please explain to me how supporting an outdated set of ideals which makes women walk four paces behind their husband and not be allowed to have an education is somehow better than what women in Britain are allowed to have.

Please explain this and how David Cameron is responsible for all of it.


He isn't is he? You think Cameron is responsible for all of it?
Good to see you have reached d in the dictionary though.


Pathetic Gusset.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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The leftist dogma that muslims become terrorists because of imperialistic oppression, marginalization and so on is quite laughable.

Islamic terrorism exists in all countries with muslim population. Poor or rich, muslim majority or muslim minority and in any cultural context. The problem lies within the very nature of islam - especially sunni islam because they dont have a theocracy and any psycho or lunatic with rhetorical ability can claim to be a spiritual leader.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Why did you feel the need to put this?


Edited by aceedi (17 Jun 2014 7.56am)

 

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Only if you boil it right down to being murder thugs

There is a lot of difference between National Socialism and the extremist Islamist movemenets (violent and non-violent) - indeed theres a lot of difference between Islamist groups, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Saudi - in fact that latter two hate each other quite passionately).

I don't think the two can really be compared except in terms of their authoritarianism. Certainly, the Nazi's wouldn't have had much truck with Islamism or Arabs except where it was convenient.

Haven't had a coffee yet so a bit blurry..but in response to this Jamie something about a Waffen SS division in Bosnia (the only non-Aryan one I think) and a the Grand Mufti of Palestine..
And I'm for the Palestinian cause of a homeland..so no misinterpretation please.

In all of this aren't some of us forgetting that we actually acted a recruiting sergeants night after night and day after day trying to stir up the desire to attack Bashir al Assad in Syria. No wonder hundreds of radicals have left these shores to take up the cudgel for what turns out to be a massive terrorist faction. Where's Lindsey Hilsum and Orla now the blood is flowing? Same with Ukraine where the east is in deep civil war - again it's all gone quiet once the media blood hounds "Are you willing to fight" Hilsum have left for the next assignment having stirred a difficult situation up and completely neglected any depth.

No these ISIL people are not Nazis - the Nazis were Nazis - enough for one history. But hateful and sectarian murderers (who we trained, got the Toyota carriers for and the radio communications Hagues's Non lethal help). If these people come back to our shores and commit outrages, we should be very angry with our politicians and our media.

 

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Half time orange slices?


 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Jun 14 9.10am

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The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.


No, please, don't hide behind your 'everyone who agrees with the status quo is a 'cund' dogma.

Please explain to me how David Cameron makes people blow up tube trains. Please explain how David Cameron makes middle class Asian kids go to Syria and kill people not aligned to their viewpoint. Please explain to me how supporting an outdated set of ideals which makes women walk four paces behind their husband and not be allowed to have an education is somehow better than what women in Britain are allowed to have.

Please explain this and how David Cameron is responsible for all of it.


He isn't is he? You think Cameron is responsible for all of it?
Good to see you have reached d in the dictionary though.


Pathetic Gusset.


I thought it was funny. Almost as funny as you saying that I've said Cameron is responsible for terrorism. Where have I said that? You are either on a wind up or just not very clever. It's not the first time you've attributed things to me that I haven't said is it?
Show everyone where I have said Cameron is responsible for terrorism.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Jun 2014 9.22am)

 

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Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jun 2014 9.42pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Jun 2014 9.32pm

The muslims I have met, and working in london schools I meet quite a few, are all intolerant of muslim extremism and ashamed of what happens in the name of Allah and the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him.
These are yer ordinary run of the mill muslims (therefore mainstream in my book) that vastly outnumber the fanatics and extremists.

Sure, there are a lot of reformist Muslims in the UK.....But again, you're not recognising that mainstream Islamic belief does also carry a lot of support for apostasy and Sharia law as well. Enough to call it mainstream.

Did you see many Islamic people complaining about the schools in Birmingham? I'm sure there are some but their are pretty quiet to me.

Like I say Nick, read Irshad Manji.....She is a Muslim and she tells it like it is......Maybe you should listen.

There's a lot more than meets the eye to the Trojan horse affair - enough to warrant its own thread. All sides are in some respect culpable.

I shall check out the Irshad Manji, thanks for the heads up.

I think you should worry a little less about muslims and more about what this current lot in power are doing to our way of life.


Because, of course, David Cameron has walked into a tube train and let off a bomb.

Your apologist dogma makes me sick.


apologist dogma! Total bs.


No, please, don't hide behind your 'everyone who agrees with the status quo is a 'cund' dogma.

Please explain to me how David Cameron makes people blow up tube trains. Please explain how David Cameron makes middle class Asian kids go to Syria and kill people not aligned to their viewpoint. Please explain to me how supporting an outdated set of ideals which makes women walk four paces behind their husband and not be allowed to have an education is somehow better than what women in Britain are allowed to have.

Please explain this and how David Cameron is responsible for all of it.


He isn't is he? You think Cameron is responsible for all of it?
Good to see you have reached d in the dictionary though.


Pathetic Gusset.


I thought it was funny. Almost as funny as you saying that I've said Cameron is responsible for terrorism. Where have I said that? You are either on a wind up or just not very clever. It's not the first time you've attributed things to me that I haven't said is it?
Show everyone where I have said Cameron is responsible for terrorism.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Jun 2014 9.22am)


Now who is twisting words.

You said that the government is more dangerous to our way of life than Muslim Extremism, followed by a typical apologist statement that you know many Muslims, all of whom abhor extremist violence.

I think both statements are bollocks and are just part of your agenda as a contrarian.

I think that ignoring the rise of Muslim extremism is very dangerous and apologists like yourself hold double standards. You profess to hate discrimination yet apologise for extremists who want to see women marginalised and gays stoned.

Hope that clears it up for you Gusset.

 


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