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Another cost socially;


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Thatcher's 1981 Regulation 909 gave education authorities the right to sell school land that they considered surplus to their requirements.
Over the next decade an estimated 5,000 playing fields were sold, many converted to housing developments, supermarkets or car parks.

Thatcher's supporters would blame instead a decline in competitive sports. Other, wider forces were also at work - the rise of computer gaming, a society-wide increase in sedentary lifestyles.
Whatever the cause, a survey by the Secondary Heads Association showed that the proportion of pupils under 14 spending less than two hours a week in physical education rose from 38% to 71% between 1987 and 1990.
By the end of the Conservative hegemony in 1997, that figure had crept above 75%.

 


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Pinky Flag Kent 10 Apr 13 8.49am

Les vues de M. Russell Brand dans le Guardian d'aujourd'hui valent lu :

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 8.55am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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A lot of stuff needed to be done in the 1980's, and she did it. but in a heartless and methodical manner, devoid of emotion and humanity.

I can assure you that those close to Margaret Thather would state categorically that the great lady was certainly NOT devoid of emotion and humanity.

Margaret Thatcher took some painful and necessary decisions that shifted the political 'Gravity' in Great Britain and the Left will NOT forgive her for proving them wrong.She had the courage to introduce radical policies which were necessary to transform a very 'Sick' Britain.

 

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Those who criticise her DECENCY as a human being are now out on the streets dancing on her grave. Pot, kettle, black comes to mind.

Absolutely correct.

Vile, repulsive, odious, and repugnant behaviour of the 'Left'. They have shown their true 'Colours'.


 

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Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 8.49am

Another cost socially;


Source: some bloke

Thatcher's 1981 Regulation 909 gave education authorities the right to sell school land that they considered surplus to their requirements.
Over the next decade an estimated 5,000 playing fields were sold, many converted to housing developments, supermarkets or car parks.

Thatcher's supporters would blame instead a decline in competitive sports. Other, wider forces were also at work - the rise of computer gaming, a society-wide increase in sedentary lifestyles.
Whatever the cause, a survey by the Secondary Heads Association showed that the proportion of pupils under 14 spending less than two hours a week in physical education rose from 38% to 71% between 1987 and 1990.
By the end of the Conservative hegemony in 1997, that figure had crept above 75%.


Never understood this argument, it's not like the playing fields are cramped with queues of kids waiting for their chance to play football / rugby / hockey.

I think you will find that the changes in the curriculum had a far bigger impact


 


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Quote Pinky at 10 Apr 2013 8.49am

Les vues de la marque de M. Russell Brand dans le Guardian d'aujourd'hui valent lu :

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So very well written and a brilliant read. Very interesting account from one of "Thatcher's children". I think her time in power can be summised as 'economic gain for social loss'.

"Is that what made her so formidable, her ability to ignore the suffering of others? Given the nature of her legacy "survival of the fittest" – a phrase that Darwin himself only used twice in On the Origin of Species, compared to hundreds of references to altruism, love and cooperation, it isn't surprising that there are parties tonight in Liverpool, Glasgow and Brixton – from where are they to have learned compassion and forgiveness?"

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.00am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote I think her time in power can be summised as 'economic gain for social loss'.

Balderdash.

Before Margaret Thatcher came to power one could hear adults express the sentiments “Britain is finished”.

In fact, such sentiments were understandable. These were the years of the three-day week, of prices and incomes policies, of double-digit inflation, of constant strikes, of power cuts. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom had been outperformed by every European economy. “Britain is a tragedy – it has sunk to borrowing, begging, stealing until North Sea oil comes in,” said Henry Kissinger. The Wall Street Journal was blunter: “Goodbye, Great Britain: it was nice knowing you”.

Thank goodness for a Prime Minister who patently refused to accept such decline and had the courage to make tough decisions to put the 'Great' back into 'Great Britain'.


 

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"Is that what made her so formidable, her ability to ignore the suffering of others? Given the nature of her legacy "survival of the fittest" – a phrase that Darwin himself only used twice in On the Origin of Species, compared to hundreds of references to altruism, love and cooperation, it isn't surprising that there are parties tonight in Liverpool, Glasgow and Brixton – from where are they to have learned compassion and forgiveness?"

Dear me.

 

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Pinky Flag Kent 10 Apr 13 10.07am

Quote DanH at 10 Apr 2013 9.17am

Quote Pinky at 10 Apr 2013 8.49am

Les vues de la marque de M. Russell Brand dans le Guardian d'aujourd'hui valent lu :

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Edited by Pinky (10 Apr 2013 8.51am)


So very well written and a brilliant read. Very interesting account from one of "Thatcher's children". I think her time in power can be summised as 'economic gain for social loss'.

"Is that what made her so formidable, her ability to ignore the suffering of others? Given the nature of her legacy "survival of the fittest" – a phrase that Darwin himself only used twice in On the Origin of Species, compared to hundreds of references to altruism, love and cooperation, it isn't surprising that there are parties tonight in Liverpool, Glasgow and Brixton – from where are they to have learned compassion and forgiveness?"

Interesting that Russell B refers to Darwinism, as her philosophy can be traced back (remember Victorian Values?) to Herbert Spencer and other Social Darwinists who tried to hijack Darwin's genius for their own selfish political ends. Darwin was dismissive of their ham-fisted attempts to use his work to justify everything from Napoleon Bonaparte to the rogue shopkeeper with his thumb on the scales.
Also he was using "fittest" in the sense of "best suited" to a particular evolutionary role and applies to everything – from bacteria to plants to huge mammals. Nothing to do with bodybuilding with your Tory chums down the gym before heading back to the estate agency in your Hoxton fin and Burton's suit, hoping to cream off another commission. Sorry to disappoint.

 

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Quote I think her time in power can be summised as 'economic gain for social loss'.

Balderdash.

Before Margaret Thatcher came to power one could hear adults express the sentiments “Britain is finished”.

In fact, such sentiments were understandable. These were the years of the three-day week, of prices and incomes policies, of double-digit inflation, of constant strikes, of power cuts. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom had been outperformed by every European economy. “Britain is a tragedy – it has sunk to borrowing, begging, stealing until North Sea oil comes in,” said Henry Kissinger. The Wall Street Journal was blunter: “Goodbye, Great Britain: it was nice knowing you”.

Thank goodness for a Prime Minister who patently refused to accept such decline and had the courage to make tough decisions to put the 'Great' back into 'Great Britain'.



You say it's balderdash and then just say she improved the economy, which is what I said.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Apr 13 10.13am

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 8.43am

Quote EsussexEagle at 10 Apr 2013 5.17am

She firstly got the Police on side with Pay rises, she then relaxed the credit laws that made it easier for working class people to get into debt and sold council houses so many of the union members took out mortgages. .

Please let us not have any tosh about Margaret Thatcher only serving the wealthy and privileged.

The great lady liberated millions of workers from control by their trade unions, emancipated the working classes by allowing millions of state tenants the right to own their own properties and granted millions of small savers the right to purchase shares in the formerly nationalised industries.
In the final analysis, in my humble opinion there is NO public figure alive who matches the standing of the late Prime Minister.She deserves full state honours at her funeral.

Liberated from their unions, straight to the dole queue via redundency. Great achievement. Whilst many got to own their own homes, the housing boom resulted in a ecconomic nightmare when the bubble burst, leaving many with negative equity.

Some progressed and benefitted greatly, but in doing so far more were left behind.

The privisation and sell off of the council properties essentially removed a market stabaliser in rental and housing prices, that is still being felt today. Sure people could buy their own house, but their children will now struggle to do the same.

 


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Pinky Flag Kent 10 Apr 13 10.17am

Quote DanH at 10 Apr 2013 10.11am

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.00am

Quote I think her time in power can be summised as 'economic gain for social loss'.

Balderdash.

Before Margaret Thatcher came to power one could hear adults express the sentiments “Britain is finished”.

In fact, such sentiments were understandable. These were the years of the three-day week, of prices and incomes policies, of double-digit inflation, of constant strikes, of power cuts. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom had been outperformed by every European economy. “Britain is a tragedy – it has sunk to borrowing, begging, stealing until North Sea oil comes in,” said Henry Kissinger. The Wall Street Journal was blunter: “Goodbye, Great Britain: it was nice knowing you”.

Thank goodness for a Prime Minister who patently refused to accept such decline and had the courage to make tough decisions to put the 'Great' back into 'Great Britain'.



You say it's balderdash and then just say she improved the economy, which is what I said.

She even gets people who agree to argue with each other, that's how divisive she was!

 

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