Margaret Thatcher

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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 13 10.19am
Thatchers greatest achievement was probably to deny the Conservatives of their greatest post war prime minister in Michael Hessletine. I very much suspect had he come to power in 1980 rather than Thatcher, he'd have still been PM well into the 1990s. The conservatives always bang on about Thatchr, but Hessletine was by far a more skilled politician, orator, statesman and leader. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 10 Apr 13 10.19am

Thatchers greatest achievement was probably to deny the Conservatives of their greatest post war prime minister in Michael Hessletine. I very much suspect had he come to power in 1980 rather than Thatcher, he'd have still been PM well into the 1990s.

The conservatives always bang on about Thatchr, but Hessletine was by far a more skilled politician, orator, statesman and leader.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 10.29am
From Billy Bragg, Calgary, AB, Canada, on the death of Margaret Thatcher: This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society. Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don't celebrate - organise! About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 10.29am

From Billy Bragg, Calgary, AB, Canada, on the death of Margaret Thatcher:

This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society.

Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don't celebrate - organise!

About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.35am
I don't want to pay for her funeral.
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Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.35am

I don't want to pay for her funeral.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.39am
Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am From Billy Bragg, Calgary, AB, Canada, on the death of Margaret Thatcher: This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society. Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don't celebrate - organise! About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states "Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile".
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South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.39am

Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am

About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie

As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states

"Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile".

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Apr 13 10.39am
People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out. On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 10 Apr 13 10.39am

People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out.

On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 10.42am
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out. On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society. A lot of today's sh1t can br traced back to Thatcherism/Reaganomics and the aggressive free market capitalism they espoused. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 10 Apr 13 10.42am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am

People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out.

On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society.

A lot of today's sh1t can br traced back to Thatcherism/Reaganomics and the aggressive free market capitalism they espoused.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 10.44am
Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am From Billy Bragg, Calgary, AB, Canada, on the death of Margaret Thatcher: This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society. Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don't celebrate - organise! About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states "Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile". Willo's d.o.b - I'm gonna go for 1981? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 10 Apr 13 10.44am

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am

Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am

About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie

As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states

"Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile".

Willo's d.o.b - I'm gonna go for 1981?

Big chest and massive boobs

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.45am
Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am From Billy Bragg, Calgary, AB, Canada, on the death of Margaret Thatcher: This is not a time for celebration. The death of Margaret Thatcher is nothing more than a salient reminder of how Britain got into the mess that we are in today. Of why ordinary working people are no longer able to earn enough from one job to support a family; of why there is a shortage of decent affordable housing; of why domestic growth is driven by credit, not by real incomes; of why tax-payers are forced to top up wages; of why a spiteful government seeks to penalise the poor for having an extra bedroom; of why Rupert Murdoch became so powerful; of why cynicism and greed became the hallmarks of our society. Raising a glass to the death of an infirm old lady changes none of this. The only real antidote to cynicism is activism. Don't celebrate - organise! About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states "Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile". Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail.
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Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.45am

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am

Quote The Sash at 10 Apr 2013 10.29am

About the most sensible 'anti' Thatch outpouring I have seen but then again BB has always been a pretty intelligent and articulate chappie

As one of the headlines in today's 'Daily Mail' states

"Crawling out of the woodwork, the old lefties spewing bile".

Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Apr 13 10.46am
Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 10.42am Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out. On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society. A lot of today's sh1t can br traced back to Thatcherism/Reaganomics and the aggressive free market capitalism they espoused. The world was changing, it had changed we were being left behind. As I've said before she got stuff wrong, anyone who had to sort out what she did is bound to have I just can't understand the myopic entrenched view of the left. It was that inflexibility at the time that helped make things more confrontational than necessary. Just read this and thought it fairly well balanced. [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 10 Apr 13 10.46am

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 10.42am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am

People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out.

On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society.

A lot of today's sh1t can br traced back to Thatcherism/Reaganomics and the aggressive free market capitalism they espoused.

The world was changing, it had changed we were being left behind. As I've said before she got stuff wrong, anyone who had to sort out what she did is bound to have I just can't understand the myopic entrenched view of the left. It was that inflexibility at the time that helped make things more confrontational than necessary.

Just read this and thought it fairly well balanced.

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.48am
Quote Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail. Taken from the latest edition of the 'Socialist Worker' sold by those who look as though they could do with a ruddy good bath.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.48am

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Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail.

Taken from the latest edition of the 'Socialist Worker' sold by those who look as though they could do with a ruddy good bath.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.48am
She sold off our industry and spunked the money.
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Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.48am

She sold off our industry and spunked the money.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.49am
Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.48am Quote Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail. Taken from the latest edition of the 'Socialist Worker' sold by those who look as though they could do with a ruddy good bath. Very intelligent response. Well done.
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Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.49am

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 10.48am

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Ah the paragon of virtue, the Hitler supporting, medically misleading Mail.

Taken from the latest edition of the 'Socialist Worker' sold by those who look as though they could do with a ruddy good bath.

Very intelligent response. Well done.

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