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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Apr 19 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by blackheatheagle

What is the correlation between Turkey joining EU and Turkish nationals to apply for employment visa a prospective members? True that under EU terms Turkish national has right to apply for enterpreneur visa (not employment) but subject to approval from government and government has full control on to grant the visa or not. Business model should be convincing and should add value to Britain. It is not an automated right. Employment visa is only granted if they had worked for a certain period in UK with a work permit again subject to approvals.Interestingly all other EU members is supposed to open this route but only UK enables this..

Turkey joining to EU is the biggest lie i have ever heard which was promoted by EU Whoever believes to this is naive or needs this lie for another purpose.

Edited by blackheatheagle (03 Apr 2019 2.08pm)

Believe what you like. Having worked for Border Force for many years I do know a bit about this. I have even spoken to Turkish government officials who stated they were in the UK to pave the way for EU entry. It won't happen now (for many years) but it was very close to happening

 

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.TUX. Flag 03 Apr 19 7.36pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

So Ford announce that a no deal brexit would make them rethink their UK footprint. Add them to the list.

Why would Ford be an active member of project fear 2.0, and be deliberately scare mongering?

If you worked at a ford plant, how would you now feel about a no deal brexit?

''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''.

Henry Ford.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''.

Henry Ford.

You highlighted something in bold which I wrote, then pasted something totally irrelevant about an old dead guy.

Played.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 19 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As we watch what these so called representatives do in Parliament. I'll refer you to this link.....and reminder of the statements made to the public some before and when we voted in 2016.

[Link]

 


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Originally posted by Spiderman

Believe what you like. Having worked for Border Force for many years I do know a bit about this. I have even spoken to Turkish government officials who stated they were in the UK to pave the way for EU entry. It won't happen now (for many years) but it was very close to happening

I got you but i know all the milestones since early 90s. ( I am Turkish ) Turkey was accepted into Custom Unions in mid 90s and then was the moments when there was an impression that Turkey will likely to join. However things changed in 2000s.

EU expanded massively by accepting countries who has no stable and balance economy in 2004, (which was put as a barrier against Turkey) and this simply discouraged Turkey. Meanwhile Erdogan started ruling the country and had a very close partnership in EU to expedite the process. That moments EU supported intensively him to make Turkey `more democratic`. Not surprisingly, he deviated from this roadmap and drag the country to a single-man land.

I ensure you in 2016, there was (and still) no chance Turkey to be considered as a new EU member due to its 80 mil population with non-balanced economy and majorly different culture. Best scenario in 90s were it would be an exclusive member which has no free movement but that it not a case anymore.

The fact is that UK (and any country) has always a right to veto this, so i was never clear about the concern. If the concern is that any UK government in future may willing to vote for Turkey, i believe that government can also offer advantages even if UK is outside as well.

So Turkish government members lobbying in UK to join EU are like parliament members who is pretending to deliver Brexit

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I really want to know what is the Brexit for which people voted

And how people that claim to know have the data to make that determination

I happen to know that the majority of leave voters wanted a Customs Union and no freedom of movement.

I also know that re-running the referendum would result in Remaining

Edited by Mapletree (03 Apr 2019 9.45am)

Better tell the country if you know.

 


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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 03 Apr 19 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As we watch what these so called representatives do in Parliament. I'll refer you to this link.....and reminder of the statements made to the public some before and when we voted in 2016.

[Link]

Imagine a parallel universe where we had voted to remain, but the government had since pushed through a 'no deal'.

BBC/Sky/Channel 4 would be playing this on loop, 24/7.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 19 9.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rubin

Imagine a parallel universe where we had voted to remain, but the government had since pushed through a 'no deal'.

BBC/Sky/Channel 4 would be playing this on loop, 24/7.

You know it.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Lets examine that.

Farage would claim ahead of the piss up, that anyone attending the piss up, would be given a lifetime supply of jack daniels, via tap, installed in their front room free of charge, just for attending.

He would claim that anyone not attending his piss up, for reasons of sobriety or scheduling conflicts, or anyone doubting his tails of free whiskey, was peddling lies and fear mongering.

On the night of the piss up, he would claim that actually it wasnt going to go ahead, and concede defeat, twice, when all along he already knew the piss up was going to go ahead. He did this to drive down the price of whiskey, to make a profit, with some crooked pals.

After the boozing stopped, there was a serious 3 year hangover though, and its still going on. We need black coffee.

Meanwhile, did his acolytes get the JD tap in the lounge? Did they f&ck.

Tbh I’ve usually trusted people more if they drink.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I wonder if this thread will get to 2000.

It’ll probably be going on till the year you would’ve turned 2,000.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tbh I’ve usually trusted people more if they drink.

That cuts both ways, as some become less trusthworthy I fear.

 


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.TUX. Flag 03 Apr 19 10.11pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You highlighted something in bold which I wrote, then pasted something totally irrelevant about an old dead guy.

Played.

Far from irrelevant given your post and once again you're just a tad too dumb to see it.

Schooled.

 


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