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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Oct 17 11.43am

They rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells.

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 03 Oct 17 11.50am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

There is no doubt pre-Twin Towers attack and after that the Neo-Cons in The White House saw their goal as Iraq after reading this from the NYTimes [Link] and were negligent to the extreme failing to act on what the intelligence agencies were relaying to them leading up to September 11.

 


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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 03 Oct 17 12.32pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Not coy, i'm just aware that all may not be what it seems, WMD being a fairly recent, proven, example.

As for 9/11, if you want me to believe that some barely trained Muslims, mainly Saudi Arabians, delivered the greatest humiliation to a superpower since David slew Goliath by outsmarting all 17 US intelligence agencies and those of NATO and Israel, the National Security Council, the Transportation Safety Administration, Air Traffic Control, and Dick Cheney, hijacked four US airliners on one morning, brought down three World Trade Center skyscrapers, destroyed that part of the Pentagon where research was underway into the missing .3 Trillion, and caused the morons in Washington to blame Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia..........then no, i'm not having it.
Throw into the mix that the most gun-ho nation on the planet couldn't find at least one F-14(15?) to patrol the skies after the first tower was hit as well as not 1 person being held accountable for this absolute lack of security in the most gun-ho nation on the planet..........then i'm doubly dubious.

But i'm sure you'll prove me wrong.

Can I ask, do you have an interesting array of tin foil hats ?

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 03 Oct 17 12.49pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

anyone seen the footage of the shooter on the 4th floor of the mandalay??

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 Oct 17 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by dannyh

Can I ask, do you have an interesting array of tin foil hats ?

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 Oct 17 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Beever


3 World Trade Center skyscrapers? Where was the third? I think they manipulated the situation into an excuse to go into Afghanistan but that's as far fetched as my conspiracy theory goes.

If you've never been there it is actually a WTC complex. Hotels etc. One of the hotels there was WTC 3

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Oct 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

There is no doubt pre-Twin Towers attack and after that the Neo-Cons in The White House saw their goal as Iraq after reading this from the NYTimes [Link] and were negligent to the extreme failing to act on what the intelligence agencies were relaying to them leading up to September 11.

There were no neo cons in the White House before 9/11. There were after 9/11.

Warnings on attacks are never ending and intelligence agencies were remade after 9/11.

No one let anything happen deliberately.....that we have evidence for.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 1.12pm)

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 03 Oct 17 1.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There were no neo cons in the White House before 9/11. There were after 9/11.

Warnings on attacks are never ending and intelligence agencies were remade after 9/11.

No one let anything happen deliberately.....that we have evidence for.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 1.12pm)

Exactly. There is no limit to the lengths these conspiracy theorists will go to attack the USA.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Oct 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There were no neo cons in the White House before 9/11. There were after 9/11.

Warnings on attacks are never ending and intelligence agencies were remade after 9/11.

No one let anything happen deliberately.....that we have evidence for.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 1.12pm)

Well yes, and no. Neo-Conservatives have been involved in the White House since the days of Regan - only during George Bush snr's time were there none of them in a Republican administration.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Oct 17 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well yes, and no. Neo-Conservatives have been involved in the White House since the days of Regan - only during George Bush snr's time were there none of them in a Republican administration.

Who were the neo cons in the white house with Bush Jnr before 9/11? I'm not aware of any and I know Jnr wasn't one.

That was the point I was making....not that neo cons have never graced the place.

The neo cons were in think tanks and weren't operating policy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 1.26pm)

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Oct 17 1.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Who were the neo cons in the white house with Bush Jnr before 9/11? I'm not aware of any and I know Jnr wasn't one.

That was the point I was making....not that neo cons have never graced the place.

The neo cons were in think tanks and weren't operating policy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2017 1.26pm)

Only two I can think of would have been Dick Chaney and Paul Wolfewitez (Possibly Karl Rove?)

But yes, the point that's important here is that the Neo-Conservative influence in the White House, was minimal, and the original GW Bush administration wasn't less focused on Neo-Conservative policy ideals than the Clinton Era was in terms of 'Empire Building'


Edited by jamiemartin721 (03 Oct 2017 1.32pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why would they need to manipulate the situation to do that? Bin Laden was already wanted for terrorist crimes.

Who would have stopped them exactly?

Also, what benefit is in taking over a country such as Afghanistan? Even then the country would have clearly been seen as a liability.

Do you declare war on a country to flush out a terrorist? Has it gone well or did I miss something? I've no doubt none of us will ever be privy to the exact reasons the decision was undertaken but I think it is a jump from targeting a terrorist organisation to invading a country. Just how I see it.

 

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