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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Mar 21 1.28pm
Originally posted by DanH It wasn't justifications for mass immigration - it was pointing out exactly what would be removed from modern life if we had only had European only immigration as per his wishes. I wouldn't have to pick up on the skin colour point if there were other reasons offered up as to why this would be preferable. You seem to equate immigration with the assimilation of culture. The two are not the same. Culture can be assimilated at arms length, especially in the modern world. You can have your food and music and all the rest without having the drug dealers, gangsters, religious nutters, racial tensions and over crowding. You are one of these people who uphold your ideas when all around you is collapsing because of them.
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Originally posted by DanH

It wasn't justifications for mass immigration - it was pointing out exactly what would be removed from modern life if we had only had European only immigration as per his wishes.

I wouldn't have to pick up on the skin colour point if there were other reasons offered up as to why this would be preferable.

You seem to equate immigration with the assimilation of culture. The two are not the same. Culture can be assimilated at arms length, especially in the modern world. You can have your food and music and all the rest without having the drug dealers, gangsters, religious nutters, racial tensions and over crowding.

You are one of these people who uphold your ideas when all around you is collapsing because of them.

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DanH SW2 22 Mar 21 2.27pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays And if white British people did start opening them up I'd give them about two months. All these progressives should really be taking trips to pakistan, Poland, China, Vietnam and the rest and start telling them how racist their history and traditions are. Have you been to any of those countries yourself out of interest? I think you would be surprised the amount of outside influences you see, especially Western. I don't think even the most 'progressive' of types are going to try and deny anyone their history and traditions. I think the former especially is so important and is why I find your viewpoint extremely confusing as you seem to be trying to deny or forget about British history. You use fish and chips as an example of good old British food. Even that is a result of immigration and multiculturalism. Fried fish can be traced back to Jewish immigrants and fried potatoes to France. If you look into the history of most 'British' things, most British family trees, you'll find influence from other countries and cultures.
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SW2 22 Mar 21 2.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And if white British people did start opening them up I'd give them about two months.

All these progressives should really be taking trips to pakistan, Poland, China, Vietnam and the rest and start telling them how racist their history and traditions are.

Have you been to any of those countries yourself out of interest? I think you would be surprised the amount of outside influences you see, especially Western.

I don't think even the most 'progressive' of types are going to try and deny anyone their history and traditions. I think the former especially is so important and is why I find your viewpoint extremely confusing as you seem to be trying to deny or forget about British history.

You use fish and chips as an example of good old British food. Even that is a result of immigration and multiculturalism. Fried fish can be traced back to Jewish immigrants and fried potatoes to France.

If you look into the history of most 'British' things, most British family trees, you'll find influence from other countries and cultures.

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DanH SW2 22 Mar 21 2.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I can accept that this point is true for the cities for American companies.....All staffed by pakistanis though. Where's the diversity Dan? Where's the attack on pakistani culture and traditions from foreigners or the descendants of foreigners in pakistan. Where is it Dan? Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 12.19pm) There was a pretty big one in 1857 that lasted until 1947. Who was responsible for that?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I can accept that this point is true for the cities for American companies.....All staffed by pakistanis though.

Where's the diversity Dan? Where's the attack on pakistani culture and traditions from foreigners or the descendants of foreigners in pakistan.

Where is it Dan?

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 12.19pm)

There was a pretty big one in 1857 that lasted until 1947. Who was responsible for that?

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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 21 2.48pm
Originally posted by DanH There was a pretty big one in 1857 that lasted until 1947. Who was responsible for that? You mean the one that went home after the rise of nationalists? Interesting approach to take. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 2.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Mar 21 2.48pm

Originally posted by DanH

There was a pretty big one in 1857 that lasted until 1947. Who was responsible for that?

You mean the one that went home after the rise of nationalists?

Interesting approach to take.

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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 21 3.11pm
Originally posted by DanH Have you been to any of those countries yourself out of interest? I think you would be surprised the amount of outside influences you see, especially Western. I don't think even the most 'progressive' of types are going to try and deny anyone their history and traditions. I think the former especially is so important and is why I find your viewpoint extremely confusing as you seem to be trying to deny or forget about British history. You use fish and chips as an example of good old British food. Even that is a result of immigration and multiculturalism. Fried fish can be traced back to Jewish immigrants and fried potatoes to France. If you look into the history of most 'British' things, most British family trees, you'll find influence from other countries and cultures. You aren't addressing the points. All you are trying to do is deconstruct culture. This isn't even the original point. You want to play deconstruction? That's just a pointless game of nihilism. As to why frying fish and potatoes has to have originated in one place for it to have relevance to historical rights to land is frankly beyond me. I used the 'fish and chips' point to show that the British aren't in pakistan staking out their cultural inputs into their land....If they did there would be a reaction.....If not perhaps seventy years later their statues would be knocked over too. In pakistan they know exactly what occupation of the land means. Unbelievably you went down the literal route in reply. Also this notion that something like fried fish can be reliably identified as starting first in one place....that whole notion is so dim...listen to yourself. You actually think that the process of frying fish has a national location. It's the same for anything.....Whatever you claim can, in turn, also be deconstructed and claimed by someone else. I should imagine that if you looked into claims like this you'd find that many countries have some history of using foods in similar ways. It's like people who say this country invented football......Well, sure we invented the first professional game of rules with standardised lengths and posts and all the rest of it...yeah certainly. But if you look into the history of nations there are forms of people kicking around balls of whatever had been happening for ages. It's all deconstruction and a load of old pointless b0llocks. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 3.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Mar 21 3.11pm

Originally posted by DanH

Have you been to any of those countries yourself out of interest? I think you would be surprised the amount of outside influences you see, especially Western.

If you look into the history of most 'British' things, most British family trees, you'll find influence from other countries and cultures.

You aren't addressing the points. All you are trying to do is deconstruct culture. This isn't even the original point. You want to play deconstruction? That's just a pointless game of nihilism.

As to why frying fish and potatoes has to have originated in one place for it to have relevance to historical rights to land is frankly beyond me.

I used the 'fish and chips' point to show that the British aren't in pakistan staking out their cultural inputs into their land....If they did there would be a reaction.....If not perhaps seventy years later their statues would be knocked over too. In pakistan they know exactly what occupation of the land means. Unbelievably you went down the literal route in reply.

Also this notion that something like fried fish can be reliably identified as starting first in one place....that whole notion is so dim...listen to yourself. You actually think that the process of frying fish has a national location. It's the same for anything.....Whatever you claim can, in turn, also be deconstructed and claimed by someone else.

I should imagine that if you looked into claims like this you'd find that many countries have some history of using foods in similar ways.

It's like people who say this country invented football......Well, sure we invented the first professional game of rules with standardised lengths and posts and all the rest of it...yeah certainly. But if you look into the history of nations there are forms of people kicking around balls of whatever had been happening for ages.

It's all deconstruction and a load of old pointless b0llocks.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 3.16pm)

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DanH SW2 22 Mar 21 3.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You aren't addressing the points. All you are trying to do is deconstruct culture. This isn't even the original point. You want to play deconstruction? That's just a pointless game of nihilism. As to why frying fish and potatoes has to have originated in one place for it to have relevance to historical rights to land is frankly beyond me. I used the 'fish and chips' point to show that the British aren't in pakistan staking out their cultural inputs into their land....If they did there would be a reaction.....Perhaps seventy years later their statues would be knocked over too. In pakistan they know exactly what occupation of the land means. Unbelievably you went down the literal route in reply. Also this notion that something like fried fish can be reliably identified as starting first in one place....that whole notion is so dim...listen to yourself. You actually think that the process of frying fish has a national location. It's the same for anything.....Whatever you claim can, in turn, also be deconstructed and claimed by someone else. I should imagine that if you looked into claims like this you'd find that many countries have some history of using foods in similar ways. It's like people who say this country invented football......Well, sure we invented the first professional game of rules with standardised lengths and posts and all the rest of it...yeah certainly. But if you look into the history of nations there are forms of people kicking around balls of whatever had been happening for ages. It's all deconstruction and a load of old pointless b0llocks. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 3.14pm) An accurate summation of most of our exchanges
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You aren't addressing the points. All you are trying to do is deconstruct culture. This isn't even the original point. You want to play deconstruction? That's just a pointless game of nihilism.

As to why frying fish and potatoes has to have originated in one place for it to have relevance to historical rights to land is frankly beyond me.

I used the 'fish and chips' point to show that the British aren't in pakistan staking out their cultural inputs into their land....If they did there would be a reaction.....Perhaps seventy years later their statues would be knocked over too. In pakistan they know exactly what occupation of the land means. Unbelievably you went down the literal route in reply.

I should imagine that if you looked into claims like this you'd find that many countries have some history of using foods in similar ways.

It's all deconstruction and a load of old pointless b0llocks.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 3.14pm)

An accurate summation of most of our exchanges

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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 21 3.19pm
Originally posted by DanH An accurate summation of most of our exchanges Well, yeah...like I said at the start it's too late now. You can smile about it at least. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Mar 21 3.19pm

Originally posted by DanH

An accurate summation of most of our exchanges

Well, yeah...like I said at the start it's too late now.

You can smile about it at least.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Mar 21 4.01pm
Originally posted by DanH So what is it, other than skin colour, that other European countries have over the rest of the world? You think you're being oh so clever 'picking apart points' (which weren't btw - that was just you offering your opinion) but you haven't offered up exactly why it is you wish for this European only utopia. there seems to be a strong sense of 'self loathing' coming from your postings on here Dan. did you suffer some trauma that you are not telling us all about ? Certainly the girls who fell victim of the pakistani rape gangs did suffer a big trauma. Maybe you should have more empathy for their plight ? Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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Originally posted by DanH

So what is it, other than skin colour, that other European countries have over the rest of the world?

You think you're being oh so clever 'picking apart points' (which weren't btw - that was just you offering your opinion) but you haven't offered up exactly why it is you wish for this European only utopia.

there seems to be a strong sense of 'self loathing' coming from your postings on here Dan.

did you suffer some trauma that you are not telling us all about ?

Certainly the girls who fell victim of the pakistani rape gangs did suffer a big trauma.

Maybe you should have more empathy for their plight ?

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Mar 21 4.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays And if white British people did start opening them up I'd give them about two months. All these progressives should really be taking trips to pakistan, Poland, China, Vietnam and the rest and start telling them how racist their history and traditions are. As I have not spent time in any of those countries I have no experience to share but I have in the Philippines where there is a vocal ex pat community of Americans and Europeans who are very critical of much of the local culture, whilst enjoying the bits they like. The major difference though is that that criticism cannot be made officially or in the press or they get thrown in jail. You would really enjoy the lack of freedom of speech For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 22 Mar 21 4.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And if white British people did start opening them up I'd give them about two months.

All these progressives should really be taking trips to pakistan, Poland, China, Vietnam and the rest and start telling them how racist their history and traditions are.

As I have not spent time in any of those countries I have no experience to share but I have in the Philippines where there is a vocal ex pat community of Americans and Europeans who are very critical of much of the local culture, whilst enjoying the bits they like.

The major difference though is that that criticism cannot be made officially or in the press or they get thrown in jail.

You would really enjoy the lack of freedom of speech

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 21 5.05pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As I have not spent time in any of those countries I have no experience to share but I have in the Philippines where there is a vocal ex pat community of Americans and Europeans who are very critical of much of the local culture, whilst enjoying the bits they like. The major difference though is that that criticism cannot be made officially or in the press or they get thrown in jail. You would really enjoy the lack of freedom of speech What the hell are westerners doing there if they don't like it? If you don't like it sod off to where you do, like it or lump it I say, it's their country, their culture. I do believe in freedom of speech so I would criticise a restriction on that, however I also believe that no country should be inviting in trouble for itself. It's a numbers game.....I should think they are looking at Europe and looking to take the benefits of globalism while minimizing its negatives. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 5.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Mar 21 5.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The major difference though is that that criticism cannot be made officially or in the press or they get thrown in jail.

You would really enjoy the lack of freedom of speech

What the hell are westerners doing there if they don't like it?

If you don't like it sod off to where you do, like it or lump it I say, it's their country, their culture.

I do believe in freedom of speech so I would criticise a restriction on that, however I also believe that no country should be inviting in trouble for itself.

It's a numbers game.....I should think they are looking at Europe and looking to take the benefits of globalism while minimizing its negatives.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 5.08pm)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Mar 21 6.46pm
Many countries in the Far East have a nice tough attitude towards Heroin. They basically crucify the dealers. In the North of England, did many of the pakistani grooming gangs also have connections to the Heroin trade ? [Link] . [Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 Mar 2021 7.23pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 Mar 2021 7.27pm) Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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Many countries in the Far East have a nice tough attitude towards Heroin. They basically crucify the dealers.

In the North of England, did many of the pakistani grooming gangs also have connections to the Heroin trade ?
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