very good post, Silvertop.
Unfortunatly more & more people think we've not paid nearly enough for past history.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

That is the danger. We have already seen a sniff of it around Europe.

I feel that it is a wider problem, not just our political system, with the causes and effects being seen and felt accross the entire spectrum of our public service institutions.

I see it as two specific problems.

The first is that victim hood pays. Essentailly if you are looking for a career within an organisation that is state funded, operates a lenient human resources policy (you are almost impossible to sack) and still throws in a bloody good pension along with a entire raft of other benefits then you need to play the game.

And that sympathy with, and continuation of, a culture of victim hood, for an ever increasing range of personal attributes or life style choices, is at the core of that. The irony of the entire Zeitgiest of 'diversity' is that what it really encourages is division and does so because the most culturally stagnent part of it i.e the British Left which is almost exclusively now white, middle class and University eductated, profits from setting us all at each others throats. There is absolutely nothing to be gained for a whole swathe of so called 'experts' by people actually getting on with their lives and taking responsibility for their actions.

Whilst the best and the brightest were out there chasing a dishonest buck in the private markets, the public sector was effectively allowed to become donimated by a Cultural Marxist agenda that has cosied up to big business.

So if you are a corporation such as Coca-Cola then as long as you make sure your advertising and sponsorship 'celebrate' the alternatives that the public sector seek to promote, they will stand aside as you crack on with selling what is effectively poison to the masses. That is one example but there are a myriad of others out there.

Now if that was just private enterprise, then it would not be so bad but when your Police service turns up at Gay Pride events in rainbow stripes, you know that something has gone very, very wrong with our society along with that same organisation being more concerned with arresting people for tweets rather than investigating burglary, we are in the twilight zone.

The second is that our core British culture is fragmenting at an alarming rate. Now I am more than willing to accept that cultures need to evolve, and that would have been difficult to define what 'British culture' was 100 years ago, let alone now, but in this modern age, with its mulitude of media and other culturally shaping influences, it is now in danger of disintegrating altogether.

Perhaps because of the flexibility of the English language (I believe that language is at the heart of how we best understand respective cultures), we might cope better than most, but this picture is one that is appearing accross the Western World and none of it offers much in the way of a positive future.

And this is state of affairs that suits both the Left, who despise the nation state, and the global corporations who wish to be free of the constraints of national interest because of the potential risk it poses to their profits. Your averge leftie and your FTSE 100 CEO both desire open borders and are willing to scrach each others backs to campaign for that. That is a powerful, if nefarious, alliance.

And at the heart of this is ensuring that the majority remain compliant. That the majority can be cowed by all sorts of accusations, can be cowed by the wagging finger from above, can be cowed by people who essentially want us to do what they say whilst maintaining a firm grip on their self-serving way of life.

That is why they hate Brexit. That is why they hated Trumps victory. Because the proles failed to do what their supposed betters told them to do. And why they are doing their utmost to usurp both events.

Where this all ends, I have no idea but there is a certain fun in watching it all unfold although that does comes with a note of caution because I suspect it is all going to end in tears and probably those of my Grandchildren.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Another very good post.(matovs)
and somewhat worrying unfortunately.
decent thread.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

A valid observation but any society, if it wants to function in any form of positive sense, has to have certain core attributes and shared values at its core.

We could argue about what those are until the cows come home, and a good time would be had by all but for me the one trope that constantly comes from the left is a disdain for the notion of populism.

What the hell is wrong with populism? Surely that is at the heart of what the democratic process actually is? And why would the left in particular be so against it?

Edited by Matov (01 May 2018 6.10pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

A very, very good post.

The only point I would add is that whilst I fully acknowledge that Trump and Brexit were protest votes, for many of the reasons you describe above, whether these protests are actually of any benefit to the 'protestors' remains to be seen.

People want something different, that much is clear, but I worry our search for something different has lead to decisions which ultimately will prove to be to the detriment of the majority.

They may succeed in bucking the trend, but to what end?