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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Mar 20 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I regret that you see it that way. I am trying to be realistic in an effort to find practical solutions and not airy fairy ones.

The bottom line is that their religion and culture is a key factor and that it was a huge mistake to allow such a backward culture into this country even if only 1% of its followers are rapists. That 1% has been responsible a lot of rape. Thousands of victims.

That's an opinion based, at least partly, on hindsight. I believe it's much more complicated and nuanced than that as it involves our relationships, and duties to, many other countries.

Whether you are "interested" or not the fact remains that we are where we are and not where you might prefer us to be. Facing that reality means we must find real ways to handle things and not simply be a keyboard warrior moaning about how bad everything is.

The first practical measure would be to stop immigration from pakistan. What would your solution be?

Thre was no hindsight required to predict the potential problems with mass immigration. It was all predictable and predicted.
I find it funny that you suggest that I am a keyboard warrior when you clog up these threads with your protracted drone every day.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 04 Mar 20 3.48pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have already told you that as someone else pointed out. Their common heritage is that they are all criminals prepared to prey on the vulnerable.

That many seem to have originally shared one faith is besides the point. Many other criminals come from other faiths but we don't ever mention them. The IRA, for instance, were all Christians. We don't know which branch of a faith they might have belonged to, whether they followed a particular teacher or whether they still believed. What we do know is that they are a tiny minority of those who believe so using any faith based description is both meaningless and inaccurate.

So what your saying is the criminals who rape little girls in gangs share the same religion.
I'll give you a clue, it's the same religion most terrorists also come from and it's a really peaceful religion

Is that enough help,!

Edited by dannyboy1978 (04 Mar 2020 3.56pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Mar 20 4.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Yeah but I don't pretend I know everything


If you don't know everything how would you recognise someone who does?

Just be thankful you've found the place to set you right.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Mar 20 4.28pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

Shame on you

Back to the BBC. I stopped paying my license fee as soon as Madge was killed off in Neighbours.

Edited by samprior (04 Mar 2020 12.37pm)

Edited by samprior (04 Mar 2020 12.38pm)

Greg Dyke's on his way round with a couple of lads.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Mar 20 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Greg Dyke's on his way round with a couple of lads.

Only when they have enough smelling salts.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Mar 20 5.13pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Only when they have enough smelling salts.

Best one-liner yet.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Mar 20 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Best one-liner yet.

Tips hat.

His parents should have gone the whole way and named him Bull.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Mar 20 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

A tad puzzled here. You have told us that you have not studied Islam to any great degree yet feel qualified to proclaim the interpretation by these grooming gangs is 'perverted'.

How do you arrive at that conclusion?

In exactly the same way everyone who is not directly involved in their cases in some way has. From the various press reports. Hence the word "seems".

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Mar 20 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The first practical measure would be to stop immigration from pakistan. What would your solution be?

How is that practical? Apart from it not being so it would have many other consequences, none of which would be in our ultimate interests. Family members are allowed to join. It would not either put a stop to the problem. The perpetrators are here. Many are by now British citizens either by birth or naturalisation. Not all those involved seem to have a connection to pakistan. The latest convictions were of Kurdish men. My solution would be to work hard to educate and communicate and never take no for an answer. If people choose to live here then they must accept our standards so no compromises. If they don't then they lose their freedom until they do.

Thre was no hindsight required to predict the potential problems with mass immigration. It was all predictable and predicted.

I reject the concept of "mass" immigration. There has been a steady increase which has matched the increasing need. What has gone wrong has been with the efforts made to ensure integration happened quickly. This was our mistake and it's down to us to correct it.

I find it funny that you suggest that I am a keyboard warrior when you clog up these threads with your protracted drone every day.

I try and suggest practical solutions and not those which would lead to confrontation and chaos.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Mar 20 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

So what your saying is the criminals who rape little girls in gangs share the same religion.
I'll give you a clue, it's the same religion most terrorists also come from and it's a really peaceful religion

Is that enough help,!

Edited by dannyboy1978 (04 Mar 2020 3.56pm)

You need to read it again because that's not what I said.

My argument is that using religion as a descriptive term is not only inaccurate but counter productive.

You make assumptions about these criminals religious beliefs and extrapolate your conclusions from them.

However religion won't be on any charge sheet and won't be part of anything the Police will investigate. Religion is not on trial. Only the evil actions are. What caused them is for sociologists to ponder and for governments to take remedial action to correct.

If you want to put all religion on trial then I will happily join you as I think it is the root cause of much suffering and has been throughout history.

As we have progressed We have largely become a nation of non believers. Unfortunately some of our less sophisticated brethren have some catching up to do. They will. It's only when, not if.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Mar 20 12.29am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You need to read it again because that's not what I said.

My argument is that using religion as a descriptive term is not only inaccurate but counter productive.

You make assumptions about these criminals religious beliefs and extrapolate your conclusions from them.

However religion won't be on any charge sheet and won't be part of anything the Police will investigate. Religion is not on trial. Only the evil actions are. What caused them is for sociologists to ponder and for governments to take remedial action to correct.

If you want to put all religion on trial then I will happily join you as I think it is the root cause of much suffering and has been throughout history.

As we have progressed We have largely become a nation of non believers. Unfortunately some of our less sophisticated brethren have some catching up to do. They will. It's only when, not if.

So the solution here is just to hold on until everybody stops believing in their various religions. Thatís reassuring. Any timescale on this? Unfortunately as youíve claimed religion has played no part in the criminal acts carried out it wonít make any difference if no one believes in it anymore.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 05 Mar 20 1.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So the solution here is just to hold on until everybody stops believing in their various religions. Thatís reassuring. Any timescale on this? Unfortunately as youíve claimed religion has played no part in the criminal acts carried out it wonít make any difference if no one believes in it anymore.

Some women dance around their handbags, he dances around his pin.

 

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