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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Sep 23 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Stop it for Christ sake.

If you must do prehistoric comparisons. The migrants from Africa, diluted the existing occupants of Europe to non existence.

That will be us this time round. We make up about one tenth of the world population.
Wake up and face reality. Europeans either deal with this or fade away. That ain't no conspiracy. That is harsh reality.


He just ignores the fact that the 'everybody came from Africa' is a theory and hotly debated. It's far more likely that humans evolved in several places and that the eventual mix that succeeded has been found there up to a certain age...There's no evidence that it started in Africa, it's a theory.

But hey, these people find it hard to 'evolve' their thinking.

It's a strawman argument anyway, humans are all related to each other and that's never been contested.

That whole contention completely misses the point.

Perhaps when they start arguing for diversity in Israel I'll at least not regard them as a hypocrite.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What garbage.

They are hamstrung by Lefty lawyers and international agreements, and you know that full well.

You really are a comedy Lefty.

Except he is not, at least on this. The Tories have CHOSEN not to do anything constructive about it. This is what people seem to struggle to get their heads around. The Tories could have sorted this s*** out. They are the ones in Government. They are the ones still with a majority more than sufficent. They are the ones with the over-whelmingly in favour of harsher action voter base.

And they have CHOSEN to do SFA.

Labour are least more honest about loving migrants. The Tories are just no good, lying scumbags. Worse than Labour because they pretend to represent those of us on the Right.

I hope they get wiped out in the next GE. I then want Labour to come in and basically be the type of s***-c***s we all know them to be. Because people have to genuinely feel the pain before they rise up.

The Tories are the same coin as Labour. Just a different 'side'. There can be no solution with either of them in situ.

Westminster needs to be turned into rubbble.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Sep 23 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Stop it for Christ sake.

If you must do prehistoric comparisons. The migrants from Africa, diluted the existing occupants of Europe to non existence.

That will be us this time round. We make up about one tenth of the world population.
Wake up and face reality. Europeans either deal with this or fade away. That ain't no conspiracy. That is harsh reality.

What existing occupants? The ones who had previously migrated there from Africa? Despite the claims from other posters who seem to want to rewrite history because it doesn’t fit their agenda it’s well understood that Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa and spread from there. That they also then mixed their DNA with other humans who had got out of Africa earlier is also known.

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Face reality. You are whistling in the dark. We won’t fade away. Our appearances may, over many generations, be changed. Climate change being responsible for some too, just as changed conditions did for those ancestors you want to deny. Our culture will develop and be enriched, but our values will remain just so long as we maintain them.

You whinging about this does nothing to sustain our values. It diminishes them.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Sep 23 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Like I said.

Some people are stuck in the past and can't 'evolve'. As stated 'out of Africa' as the de facto starting point for all humans, is contested.

Nothing to do as to how I feel about it, it's just I tend to update my knowledge base from the 70s.

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Home Secretary Suella Braverman says multiculturalism has "failed" during a speech on migration. She says it has "allowed people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it" ... "You can see it play out... from Malmo, to Paris, Brussels, to Leicester."

Many of us have known this for many years, but it is helpful that a cabinet minister now admits it.

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

Home Secretary Suella Braverman says multiculturalism has "failed" during a speech on migration. She says it has "allowed people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it" ... "You can see it play out... from Malmo, to Paris, Brussels, to Leicester."

Many of us have known this for many years, but it is helpful that a cabinet minister now admits it.

Agreed.

Problem is Cameron said this as did Merkel.....Then they did sweet fanny adams....quite the reverse in fact.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Sep 23 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Nothing in the links provides challenge to the fundamental proposition that the origin of our species was in Africa. That some Europeans may have taken the long route around Asia to get here is somewhat besides the point. Nor is that they mixed with other humans on arrival. Our species first evolved in Africa.

None of this is that important. However we got here, we did. We aren’t a separate race, let alone a superior one. We share the planet and it’s problems, so have mutual interests in solving them.

Building walls and closing doors has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

Unless and until we know there are valid reasons why people will decide not to risk their lives to migrate they will continue to try. Some will succeed. Others will die.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing in the links provides challenge to the fundamental proposition that the origin of our species was in Africa. That some Europeans may have taken the long route around Asia to get here is somewhat besides the point. Nor is that they mixed with other humans on arrival. Our species first evolved in Africa.

None of this is that important. However we got here, we did. We aren’t a separate race, let alone a superior one. We share the planet and it’s problems, so have mutual interests in solving them.

Building walls and closing doors has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

Unless and until we know there are valid reasons why people will decide not to risk their lives to migrate they will continue to try. Some will succeed. Others will die.

Why bother with passports then? Just let everyone go where they like.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing in the links provides challenge to the fundamental proposition that the origin of our species was in Africa. That some Europeans may have taken the long route around Asia to get here is somewhat besides the point. Nor is that they mixed with other humans on arrival. Our species first evolved in Africa.

None of this is that important. However we got here, we did. We aren’t a separate race, let alone a superior one. We share the planet and it’s problems, so have mutual interests in solving them.

Building walls and closing doors has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

Unless and until we know there are valid reasons why people will decide not to risk their lives to migrate they will continue to try. Some will succeed. Others will die.

So why do people risk their lives crossing the channel in small overcrowded dinghies when they already have safety in mainland Europe?

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

So why do people risk their lives crossing the channel in small overcrowded dinghies when they already have safety in mainland Europe?

Exactly, clear and flagrant breach of the rules. Enforce the current legislation and bring France to the international court. Or enact a proper illegal immigrant law in England: there is absolutely no reason for these people to come from France. All should be returned or repatriated with the bill going to either the EU or France. Basically, stop being pussies about it. Enforce the current regulations.
It's not what I want, but to counter that, have a system whereby there is a legal route for refugees in Europe to come to Britain. Introduce a limited quota with vetting and visa requirements.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing in the links provides challenge to the fundamental proposition that the origin of our species was in Africa. That some Europeans may have taken the long route around Asia to get here is somewhat besides the point. Nor is that they mixed with other humans on arrival. Our species first evolved in Africa.

None of this is that important. However we got here, we did. We aren’t a separate race, let alone a superior one. We share the planet and it’s problems, so have mutual interests in solving them.

Building walls and closing doors has the potential to create more problems than it solves.

Unless and until we know there are valid reasons why people will decide not to risk their lives to migrate they will continue to try. Some will succeed. Others will die.

One of your dafter than average posts - and of course with you the bar is so high.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 26 Sep 23 6.50pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Home Secretary Suella Braverman says multiculturalism has "failed" during a speech on migration. She says it has "allowed people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it" ... "You can see it play out... from Malmo, to Paris, Brussels, to Leicester."

Many of us have known this for many years, but it is helpful that a cabinet minister now admits it.


It is froth. Just waving red meat to try and stir up the voters. She has said nothing new. Possibly just positioning herself for a run at leadership once Sunak get stomped next year.


 


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