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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 19 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

avoid the difficult question? surely not?

I don't deliberately avoid questions, I've answered it....I don't know, it's for them. I don't live there and so I don't know about white culture in the Caribbean.

 


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steve1984 03 Feb 19 12.13pm

I'll go to the V&A, the Wallace Collection, the Dulwich Picture Gallery, the Sir John Soane Museum or the Courtalds if I need some white British culture.

Answer the question.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

I'll go to the V&A, the Wallace Collection, the Dulwich Picture Gallery, the Sir John Soane Museum or the Courtalds if I need some white British culture.

Answer the question.


That point has already been answered several times.....yet here this faulty point is raised yet again.

I've answered the question. There is a lot they could cover in a museum like that......As it would be celebrating white culture though perhaps the narrative wouldn't be to your liking.....no doubt.

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steve1984 03 Feb 19 12.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't deliberately avoid questions, I've answered it....I don't know, it's for them. I don't live there and so I don't know about white culture in the Caribbean.

Well in that case I can recommend two books by CLR James. Beyond a Boundary is imho the best book about cricket ever written. The Black Jacobins is his seminal account of the San Domingo slave revolution that resulted in the establishment of Haiti the world's first black republic.

Pleading ignorance is a cop out. Anyone with half a brain who's been to Liverpool understands something about white culture in the Caribbean. A once wealthy city that no longer serves any economic purpose.

 

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steve1984 03 Feb 19 12.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've answered the question.

According to the Theresa May school of answering maybe.

PS Beyond A Boundary is so much more than a book about cricket. I think you'd enjoy it.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Well in that case I can recommend two books by CLR James. Beyond a Boundary is imho the best book about cricket ever written. The Black Jacobins is his seminal account of the San Domingo slave revolution that resulted in the establishment of Haiti the world's first black republic.

Pleading ignorance is a cop out. Anyone with half a brain who's been to Liverpool understands something about white culture in the Caribbean. A once wealthy city that no longer serves any economic purpose.

That's your obsession with slavery.

Slavery is certainly a topic I would think should be covered in any museum focused upon a racial group as every group has engaged in it.....And still are.

I don't live there but they could also include the welfare, legal and education systems, religion....lots of stuff.....family histories of predominant people.

They would be celebrating white culture.....so it's up to them.

But I repeat....I don't live in the Caribbean......and I don't think it's a good idea.

Liverpool 'no longer serves any economic purpose'?......blimey.


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steve1984 03 Feb 19 1.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

...blimey.

indeed.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 03 Feb 19 1.51pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

It makes a difference to some,but personally speaking as someone who has a white sister in law and a white brother in law,mixed race nieces and nephew makes no difference at all.

Wherever you come from it's always good to embrace your culture.

Arnt most black and mixed race people from britain?

 

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deleted user Flag 03 Feb 19 1.56pm

When I went to the open air Anglo Saxon museum I can't say I was clenching my fists at the fact that there was no black presence. By the same token I can imagine that learning about the history and experiences of black Britons would be worthwhile, and I wouldn't be bothering myself or anyone else over the nature of what that museum offered either.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Feb 19 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

I think a black cultural museum is a great idea.

Why shouldn't we embrace Marcus Garvey,Nelson Mandela,Bob Marley etc.

Indeed. But why does it have to be 'Black history' and not just History?

History is history. I don't accept that you have to be Black to appreciate Black contributions any more than one has to be Egyptian to appreciate the Pyramids.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Feb 19 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

That you believe that a museum of black culture is a threat to you as a white person makes you highly likely to be a screaming racist.

What part of our culture as white brits isn’t covered by the many, many, many museums or other cultural locations throughout the country?

“There’s nothing celebrating skinheads!”

Ok. Fair point.

Debate stifling, shouting racist post of the week.

Divisive identity politics is a threat to all of us.

Exclusivity based on race is supposed to be what we are trying to discard. How does a Black museum fit into that ambition?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 Feb 19 3.14pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Its when black lives matter and their ilk demand some input that this will totally fail.
Do you think present day black gang culture of black boys stabbing each other will be included.

 

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