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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Anorexia is an illness... Is just liking food to much an illness??.. I mean that sincerely and not piss taking... Iím pretty sure anorexia is a proven medical condition but Iím not so sure liking food to much is although Iím happy to be proved wrong..

Youíre right, of course but overeating can sometimes also be caused by psychological problems. Should one condition get more sympathy than the other?


 

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deleted user Flag 08 Aug 19 11.08pm

Originally posted by Painter

I agree with this. What has got me thinking is who would determine if they are obese and should be left to die. Would there be a weigh bridge in all NHS buildings and a red light flashes and all their medications are taken away and sent on there way to die.

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deleted user Flag 08 Aug 19 11.09pm

Originally posted by JL85

Increase tax on fast foods, processed, Sugars, booze etc. Take it to smoking levels.

Subsidise the cost of healthier foods.

Edited by JL85 (08 Aug 2019 2.03pm)

I was about the disagree because these things are largely a tax on the poor, but 'if' money from that was used to subsidise healthier foods I think I'd actually be in favour to be honest.

 

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deleted user Flag 08 Aug 19 11.13pm

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Anorexia is an illness... Is just liking food to much an illness??.. I mean that sincerely and not piss taking... Iím pretty sure anorexia is a proven medical condition but Iím not so sure liking food to much is although Iím happy to be proved wrong..

It's an interesting point. Anorexia is clearly a very serious mental illness manifesting itself physically. On the other end of the scale, there are certainly limited conditions where people feel an incredible hungry 24/7, but I see your point in that gluttony essentially is a personal failing and a choice.

I still wouldn't take away any NHS options though. Everyone has challenges in life and if people want to help themselves, the health services should be there for them.

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

It's an interesting point. Anorexia is clearly a very serious mental illness manifesting itself physically. On the other end of the scale, there are certainly limited conditions where people feel an incredible hungry 24/7, but I see your point in that gluttony essentially is a personal failing and a choice.

I still wouldn't take away any NHS options though. Everyone has challenges in life and if people want to help themselves, the health services should be there for them.

Itís certainly a talking point although I agree the NHS is there for us all... even those that donít pay tax/national insurance etc. No matter there faults itís one of the wonderful things about living in Britain

 


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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Itís certainly a talking point although I agree the NHS is there for us all... even those that donít pay tax/national insurance etc. No matter there faults itís one of the wonderful things about living in Britain

Couldnít agree more.
It does raise the possibility of all doctors and nurses having to follow strict diets in case they needed to tell a patient he was too overweight for treatment.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Youíre right, of course but overeating can sometimes also be caused by psychological problems. Should one condition get more sympathy than the other?



People like to use the excuse over eating is because of those reasons but again if you are eating the correct diet you can't really over eat.

i know some will now say you can no you can't this has been proven go and eat high amounts of fat it's a struggle which is why some people will even find it hard to eat twice a day but carbs you can do it easily in fact this is the problem you can load up on them and few hours later you feel hungry again which is why people adopted the 3-5 times eating a day.

plus it takes a lot of over eating to become massively obese it doesn't happen over just a month or even few months.

Anorexia is mental disorder which leads to becoming a physical one.

Originally posted by dollardays

I was about the disagree because these things are largely a tax on the poor, but 'if' money from that was used to subsidise healthier foods I think I'd actually be in favour to be honest.


How is it a tax on the poor it's not.

If you are that poor why are you spending money on the likes of alcohol and tobacco.

healthier foods are affordable doesn't cost much to buy meat but no people wont go for that they would rather go for the chips and processed pre made meals thinking they are good value.

A person on say JSA receives £73 a week which is to cover basic living now you hear those people moan can't live on that wrong an adult can easily if they buy correct food shopping per week would be around £25 leaving £48 so that still leaves enough to cover some public transport and few other bits regarding hygiene.

Edited by grumpymort (09 Aug 2019 12.40am)

 


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deleted user Flag 09 Aug 19 12.34am

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Itís certainly a talking point although I agree the NHS is there for us all... even those that donít pay tax/national insurance etc. No matter there faults itís one of the wonderful things about living in Britain

You couldn't be more right. In the States hundreds of thousands of people go bankrupt each year paying for essential healthcare and that can never be a just outcome.

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

You couldn't be more right. In the States hundreds of thousands of people go bankrupt each year paying for essential healthcare and that can never be a just outcome.

Iím assuming by your username you live in the states??.. I have a very good friend whom I grew up with here who now lives in the states and he echoes what you say... He genuinely says we donít know how lucky we are with the NHS as Iíve heard horror stories from him regarding medical care in the US and the different types of insurance you get ripped off with..

 


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Originally posted by dollardays

You couldn't be more right. In the States hundreds of thousands of people go bankrupt each year paying for essential healthcare and that can never be a just outcome.


Well that is because the States system is made to make big profits not about real health care plus it's insurance prices just like the prices of insurance here rip people off.

Our system has been heading in this direction as well it's not about best health treatment and it's clear to see with dr pushing drugs all the time Statins and anti depressants are prime example both are money makers nothing else

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


How is it a tax on the poor it's not.

If you are that poor why are you spending money on the likes of alcohol and tobacco.

healthier foods are affordable doesn't cost much to buy meat but no people wont go for that they would rather go for the chips and processed pre made meals thinking they are good value.

A person on say JSA receives £73 a week which is to cover basic living now you hear those people moan can't live on that wrong an adult can easily if they buy correct food shopping per week would be around £25 leaving £48 so that still leaves enough to cover some public transport and few other bits regarding hygiene.

Edited by grumpymort (09 Aug 2019 12.40am)

It still feels wrong to introduce a kind of morality clause into medical treatment whereby fat people are deemed ďbadĒ so donít deserve to live.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It still feels wrong to introduce a kind of morality clause into medical treatment whereby fat people are deemed ďbadĒ so donít deserve to live.

Precisely.

There are valid criticisms to make concerning many types of lifestyle however this form of social Darwinism is far too harsh for rich countries to enact.

 


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