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Deleted11 12 Nov 19 6.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

UK Immigration: The Facts.

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To be fair, they don't put up any links to sources, which could be laziness or for other reasons. So, I have to go an search for it myself.

So, from the office of national statistics. They are correct in that net migration has been increasing year on year for the past 10/15 years. However, they start to go onto talking about an Australian points system, etc, which, if you look at the graph, we pretty much have control of non eu migration. We just don't seem to be enforcing it.

I know these forums are a bit more pro brexit party/conservative, from my perspective anyway, and I don't necessarily have an issue with that.

The real issue, which for me, is extremely important, is why have successful ConLab governments allowed this to happen?

The argument that they contribute more than they take out is, imo, difficult to measure, as is the opposite view too.

I'm a son a immigrants, that came in the 'right way', with papers, etc, as I imagine the vast majority of immigrants that come here do. Do I have a problem with it? No, however, there is a really big problem with integration. When my parents came, they had to mix with the English, because there wasn't anyone else to mix with, but when you start increasing the levels, then I do believe you have to have some kind of social integration system in place.

The real issue is what is the effect. Remember, I may be a racist for saying we have to much immigration or I may be loony lefty if I want more immigration, but the effect, is competition on labour.

Thatcher killed the unions, however, to lower the price of labour you need to introduce more people into your country and now we are at an extreme on the other side where union participation is almost non existent. I'm not saying it wasn't the right thing to do at the time, but, this is where we are.

So, the workers actually vote for this. Their jobs go abroad, they face competition in their own country as well as where they live changing and they have no other recourse.

It's crap, but don't expect it to change.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

UK Immigration: The Facts.

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The scandal of our generation and one that will destroy the culture and infrastructure of this country.

 

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deleted user Flag 12 Nov 19 6.31pm

Originally posted by Jway89


It's crap, but don't expect it to change.

Interesting migration stats. That was always the concern really, that the government will do everything within its power to keep immigration at current levels regardless of public opinion. In, out, shake it all about, same s*** different day.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 12 Nov 19 7.19pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Diversity seems to be something of a one way street in my opinion.

I know of a junior school where they have stopped celebrating or acknowledging Christmas, but pull all the stops out for Diwali.

My contract was prematurely ended at a major bank when working with three colleagues of Indian descent. No satisfactory reason given and I later found out they had replaced me with one of their relatives.

I had a job interview earlier this year in which the CEO proudly proclaimed that the cultural fit was as important as the experience that a candidate had, if not more so. So in other words, he was only hiring one type of person -not especially diverse is it !


 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

Diversity seems to be something of a one way street in my opinion.

I know of a junior school where they have stopped celebrating or acknowledging Christmas, but pull all the stops out for Diwali.

My contract was prematurely ended at a major bank when working with three colleagues of Indian descent. No satisfactory reason given and I later found out they had replaced me with one of their relatives.

I had a job interview earlier this year in which the CEO proudly proclaimed that the cultural fit was as important as the experience that a candidate had, if not more so. So in other words, he was only hiring one type of person -not especially diverse is it !


Modern Britain.

 

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Originally posted by NEILLO

Diversity seems to be something of a one way street in my opinion.

I know of a junior school where they have stopped celebrating or acknowledging Christmas, but pull all the stops out for Diwali.

My contract was prematurely ended at a major bank when working with three colleagues of Indian descent. No satisfactory reason given and I later found out they had replaced me with one of their relatives.

I had a job interview earlier this year in which the CEO proudly proclaimed that the cultural fit was as important as the experience that a candidate had, if not more so. So in other words, he was only hiring one type of person -not especially diverse is it !


In Bromley we celebrate Christmas in Lewisham I think they call it Winterval or some such nonsense.

One of my Hindu colleagues told me that he and his kids were really looking forward to Christmas. I said I thought you didn't celebrate it. His heart warming response was "It's a party, family food and presents what's not to like".

 


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The thing is people like Maple and Steely are very much the minority.

The majority never asked for this.....No one asked the population whether they wanted mass migration until the EU referendum and that was only implicit.....and was a question about the least troubling form.

In fact as the video link shows the vast majority of people have been against mass migration for decades.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The thing is people like Maple and Steely are very much the minority.

The majority never asked for this.....No one asked the population whether they wanted mass migration until the EU referendum and that was only implicit.....and was a question about the least troubling form.

In fact as the video link shows the vast majority of people have been against mass migration for decades.

No one was asked if they wanted the benefits of globalisation either, but we got them. Things/Travel/Food are way, way cheaper than they’ve ever been, due to cheap labour both overseas and through more recent immigrants being prepared to do jobs for lower pay than settled UK-ers.

I agree the referendum was a lot about immigration. If we lost that cheaper labour, wages will go up for some lower paid workers, but costs and taxes will go up too. You can’t have your cake and eat if.


 


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Originally posted by Badger11

In Bromley we celebrate Christmas in Lewisham I think they call it Winterval or some such nonsense.

One of my Hindu colleagues told me that he and his kids were really looking forward to Christmas. I said I thought you didn't celebrate it. His heart warming response was "It's a party, family food and presents what's not to like".

Nope they call it Christmas there too.

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

Diversity seems to be something of a one way street in my opinion.

I know of a junior school where they have stopped celebrating or acknowledging Christmas , but pull all the stops out for Diwali.

My contract was prematurely ended at a major bank when working with three colleagues of Indian descent. No satisfactory reason given and I later found out they had replaced me with one of their relatives.

I had a job interview earlier this year in which the CEO proudly proclaimed that the cultural fit was as important as the experience that a candidate had, if not more so. So in other words, he was only hiring one type of person -not especially diverse is it !

Which school is that exactly? I find it unlikely they would celebrate one religious de rival but not another (more mainstream) one.

 


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Originally posted by the.universal

Nope they call it Christmas there too.

They normally put up generic decorations in the Riverdale shopping centre and the high street, no mention of Christmas.

 


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Originally posted by the.universal

Nope they call it Christmas there too.


This entire 'not calling it Christmas' trope is hugely over-blown and us Righties have to take a step back from it because the reality is that most Foreigns have no issue with Christmas and enjoy taking part in it all. And before we all get too precious, how many of you actually go to Church over the festivities? Easter is a much bigger deal in the Christian calendar. If you have a faith, that is the one that matters, the real crux of it all.

Don't get me wrong I am sure the Progressive t***s would love to pull a stunt like downgrading it and even doing away with the spiritual aspect altogether and I am sure they have tried but the reality is that it has become a bit of an urban myth.

 


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