I am very well aware that there are few on here who agree with me for the obvious reason that this place is dominated by a particular viewpoint. That though doesn't mean that I am wrong or there aren't others in the wider world who do agree, although I freely acknowledge that it is a subject that needs more exposure to become better understood. Something which a large Tory majority may well produce. We face a long period without any kind of effective opposition. Lord Grade just suggested on Radio 4 that as the BBC would be filling that role in the coming years with their responsibility for critical analysis, we can anticipate further Tory attacks on them and threats to their independence. I think he may well be right.

Yes my views are idealistic but where is the downside of that? We ought to aspire to the ideal whilst being pragmatic in how we approach it. If we can improve the way things work then we should. If there is a drift towards an undesirable situation which puts too much power in the hands of an elite unseen few, of whatever political stripe, then we all ought to oppose it, whatever our own politics might be.

Unless the funding basis for elections was totally changed we could never see enough independents in Parliament to hold power.

My own County Councillor is an independent and a friend of mine. He is very active locally and extremely visible, attending local events, meetings, pub quizzes and football matches. He also chairs the planning committee. He does a cracking job and is returned each election by a overwhelming majority. Politically we share many views. He cannot understand why so many in Cornwall voted to leave when EU funding has been so important to the economy here and he is extremely concerned about the impact of Brexit. He is, of course, better placed to understand this than most others.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Dec 2019 3.01pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

All true (except the bit about being a member of a "mob".

True, but besides the point.

That you think it is just shows that you don't understand it.

It isn't why people vote as they do, but the responsibility of the MP they choose that matters.

To repeat my old mantra. MPs are NOT delegates. They are representatives.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

In nearly every post you have written today, you have insinuated that certain posters on here are wrong and do not understand. That, of course, is your prerogative. You have also criticised them for not saying , they might be wrong. I cannot recall you saying you might be wrong. You do talk down to people and act like you always know best, before bemoaning how people reply to you, perhaps take a long hard look in a mirror.

Sounds like Ash Sarkar, the communist activist. ‘The politics is right, the people are wrong.’ Some people never grow out of student thinking. Some people will always be the same. They can’t change.

COYP

Extreme non PC & Snowflake/leftie upsetting, BUT, its over.

Voting done, people spoke(voted), Ruskies didnt get a look in(not as enjoyable as the US), can the 'losers' now accept this defeat & let this country get back to what it was & should be(oh, & out of Europe).

Just saying

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Stirling could be a gal.
That's not very PC wissie.
That's an example of where we be with labour by the way.
Do you see why the tories are a better fit atm.
Give the police some self respect and ability to do their job. Not arrest people for clapping too loud.
etc etc.
Left wing politics doesnt fit in right now.
Far left even less so.
If BJ doesnt follow through you and yours can call him out on election night in 5 years.
At least sit back, sip your chardonnay and watch it fall apart if that's your foresight.
It's very disingenuous to predict epic failure on day 3 tbh.