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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 May 20 10.48pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is a limit, I'd agree with you and Cryrst on that.

But I do agree that in general it should be frowned upon.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 May 2020 10.41pm)

What shouldn't be grassed up?
Should be a small list really.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 10.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Where I come from being a grass is frowned upon.

It's unlikely that you genuinely have a problem with someone getting their own back on their boss - and abiding by the law - in such circumstances, so it's a non point to begin with.

This isn't some cheeky individual doing a bit of cash in hand on the side. It's an employer in a position of power exploiting people in a way that threatens their livelihood and forces them to engage in free labour at a troubling time when every penny count. I have little concern for those who behave in a substandard manner towards others.


Edited by BlueJay (20 May 2020 11.25pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 10.54pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Even a boss that's stiffing you ?
Personally I dont get mad. I get even or leave. First time more fool me, second time more fool them. Every pound they take from me i get 10 back one way or another. Never piss off a mobile engineer!

Well said that man. If they pay a price for stiffing their workers, they may think twice about repeating it in future.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 May 20 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

It seems as though a lot of people are deciding when their lockdown ends, and social distancing for some, is at an end. I disagreed with this at first now I’m not. And it again indicates how difficult it is to put the British in detention. If it was wet and cold it would be easier, but it wasn’t, even in the beginning.

One or two reported new cases in London. Obviously there will be more who don’t report it or dare I say, soldier on, but it’s the comparison that’s key.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 20 May 20 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’d change our lockdown policies by bringing all dates forward by at least 6-8 weeks. They’re buckling on the holidays anyway.

Some of the hysteria and reluctance to acknowledge any figures that proves only vulnerable need to remain shielded on Twitter is unreal.

There was one female doctor saying that no lockdown would mean asymptomatic people spreading the virus in shops causing more chance of the vulnerable catching it at home. You couldn’t make it up. If their family are getting into contact with them then yes that’s possible. If they don’t then they won’t become infected. And supermarket shop floors are very safe these days if you aim to be safe. It’s in the staff areas there will be no social distancing.

I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group.

The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves.

I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon.

You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast.

Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 11.23pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It seems as though a lot of people are deciding when their lockdown ends, and social distancing for some, is at an end. I disagreed with this at first now I’m not. And it again indicates how difficult it is to put the British in detention. If it was wet and cold it would be easier, but it wasn’t, even in the beginning.

One or two reported new cases in London. Obviously there will be more who don’t report it or dare I say, soldier on, but it’s the comparison that’s key.

It pays for businesses and individuals to take sensible measures to keep the r0 rate down. That said, I agree that people are going stir crazy and there's only so long that they can be penned in. Broadly speaking those most at risk know that they are. I don't blame them for keeping a low profile, just as I don't blame tothers for wanting to kickstart the economy and get back to some semblance of normality.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 20 May 20 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's unlikely that you genuinely have a problem with someone getting their own back on their boss - and abiding by the law - in such circumstances, so it's a non point to begin with.

This isn't some cheeky individual doing a bit of cash in hand on the side. It's an employer in a position of power exploiting people in a way that threatens their livelihood and forces them to engage in free labour at a troubling time when every penny count. I have little concern for those who behave in a substandard manner towards others.


Edited by BlueJay (20 May 2020 11.25pm)

I was just making a general statement really.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 20 May 20 11.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

What shouldn't be grassed up?
Should be a small list really.

Not for me, it has to be serious.....I think most people know what I mean.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 11.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I was just making a general statement really.

Obviously not, but don't worry I won't grass you up, you slagggg.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 20 May 20 11.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Obviously not, but don't worry I won't grass you up, you slagggg.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 20 May 20 11.36pm

YES, a happy face!!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 May 20 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group.


No the one I read was replying in a thread that was talking about elderly and vulnerable shielding. It is not the whole country’s responsibility that someone, or everyone, shields with absolutely no contact. That is down to either the people shielding, their relatives or social workers. And the local community helping them, before I get lynched any lunatics reading this.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (20 May 2020 11.49pm)

 


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