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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Sep 20 2.13am

Our prime minister, has said , that if more than 6 people gather they will be "breaking the law", yet , on Tuesday, one of his cabinet has said we are breaking international law, in the new brexit bill.Obviously some or lots on here will agree with breaking international law in this case, but if our government admit to breaking international law, who can complain when people in the uk say fcuk the law, you can choose which bit you want to follow, and which bits you can break, just a little bit?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Sep 20 2.59am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

People break laws all the time? Ever gone over 70?

It's not the law as much as what the consequences are for breaking it.

The Police regularly ignore the breaking of laws and selectively enforce depending upon their priorities.

Other countries also regularly break international laws.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Sep 20 5.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

People break laws all the time? Ever gone over 70?

It's not the law as much as what the consequences are for breaking it.

The Police regularly ignore the breaking of laws and selectively enforce depending upon their priorities.

Other countries also regularly break international laws.


And the police regularly break the law i guess.I wasn"t going to bother posting any more anti gov .uk stuff as i think most , pro CON or anti, know they are a bit clueless(what"s the alternative ?) I hear you ask? But seeing boris saying at his news brief that from monday, people in more than a six pack gathering will be breaking the law, i did have to smirk, a tad hypocritical bojo ,i thought!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Sep 20 5.33am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Our prime minister, has said , that if more than 6 people gather they will be "breaking the law", yet , on Tuesday, one of his cabinet has said we are breaking international law, in the new brexit bill.Obviously some or lots on here will agree with breaking international law in this case, but if our government admit to breaking international law, who can complain when people in the uk say fcuk the law, you can choose which bit you want to follow, and which bits you can break, just a little bit?

This may be to stop NI turning bad again.
What laws is he advocating breaking as a bit too complex for me.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Sep 20 7.12am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Our prime minister, has said , that if more than 6 people gather they will be "breaking the law", yet , on Tuesday, one of his cabinet has said we are breaking international law, in the new brexit bill.Obviously some or lots on here will agree with breaking international law in this case, but if our government admit to breaking international law, who can complain when people in the uk say fcuk the law, you can choose which bit you want to follow, and which bits you can break, just a little bit?

To be honest I don't understand what this all means so I will have to wait for the "cheats" explanation. It sounds like a bit of posturing and a threat to the EU to hurry up and make a deal (Trump style).

But I wouldn't worry Croydon another poster on here is always telling us we should trust our MPs especially over Brexit so I am, sure they will do the right thing.

 


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View stuckinbristol's Profile stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 10 Sep 20 8.34am Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

Chatting to a copper mate of mine on Sunday, he said he was too busy trying to catch people who smash other people over the head with a brick in a bag, or lacerate people with kitchen knives to worry to much about covid laws....but then he is based in Swindon.

*both above happened on his last shift, a Thursday afternoon!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Sep 20 10.10am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The Uks withdrawal deal is not worth the paper it is written on, the UK will not keep to it in any case.

That is what its about.

If the EU are going along with that, its their problem, they are not the brightest.

With no deal we shall see the consequences, estimated yesterday at 3.2 trillions.

The UK is now morally as well as fiscally bankrupt.

The cost of no deal is estimated to be 3.2 trillions.

Every day the government is spending billions zillions, they have no responsibility at all, they are quite happy to plunge future generations into an abyss.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 20 10.11am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

When the EU say breaking international law, I always say, fair enough - get a navy and air force - otherwise it's called pissing into the wind.

 


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Originally posted by croydon proud

Our prime minister, has said , that if more than 6 people gather they will be "breaking the law", yet , on Tuesday, one of his cabinet has said we are breaking international law, in the new brexit bill.Obviously some or lots on here will agree with breaking international law in this case, but if our government admit to breaking international law, who can complain when people in the uk say fcuk the law, you can choose which bit you want to follow, and which bits you can break, just a little bit?

With respect. This is an infantile comparison.

One is a negotiating tactic to get what is best for the British Isles and stop Europe dictating to us and the other is to save lives.
If those on the left just stopped acting like naive TV brainwashed teenagers occasionally, they might actually join the real world.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 10 Sep 20 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With respect. This is an infantile comparison.


To be fair, HMG have been quite blatant about their current proposal breaking international law and it is not a good look no matter what. Personally I am fully behind the move because it is the EU who disgust me on a multiple of levels. And given that almost every single British person up in the arms about this are also the t***s who wanted my vote on June 23rd rendered useless, they to can go and f*** themselves. They also disgust me on a multiple of levels as well with my heart pumping piss for them.

But however this pans out, this will not have been this country's finest moment. Sometimes when s*** is s***, you have to accept that even if you are quite happy for it to be flung about.

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Sep 20 2.37pm

Lord Howard(of all people), has said in the lords he never thought he would see the day when a gov minister would utter those 5 words(we are breaking international law), he said let alone a CONservative gov minister, he said we can no longer criticise China, Russia or Iran on law breaking if we are doing the same, i have to agree with him(never thought i would say that!). Knowing this government, and it"s leader domonic, i realise they will probably pull out just before cummings (ooops i say), does another u turn , but it doesn"t look good on us-even in the senate they have disgussed it saying the trade deal(with our besties remember), will go out the window if this goes ahead.It"s the people who HAVE to work to live and their children who will be paying for all this gov mess remember-the likes of boris and the old Etonians will just fcuk off to California when the real crap hits the fan!Leave the eu-so we can do a real deal with our closest buddies- but leave illegally(in gov ministers words), and we don"t get that deal- it"s a race to the bottom- but we are all in this together!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Lord Howard(of all people), has said in the lords he never thought he would see the day when a gov minister would utter those 5 words(we are breaking international law), he said let alone a CONservative gov minister, he said we can no longer criticise China, Russia or Iran on law breaking if we are doing the same, i have to agree with him(never thought i would say that!). Knowing this government, and it"s leader domonic, i realise they will probably pull out just before cummings (ooops i say), does another u turn , but it doesn"t look good on us-even in the senate they have disgussed it saying the trade deal(with our besties remember), will go out the window if this goes ahead.It"s the people who HAVE to work to live and their children who will be paying for all this gov mess remember-the likes of boris and the old Etonians will just fcuk off to California when the real crap hits the fan!Leave the eu-so we can do a real deal with our closest buddies- but leave illegally(in gov ministers words), and we don"t get that deal- it"s a race to the bottom- but we are all in this together!

I believe maybe Cameron's deal could have been done.
Any deal now just can't be. This NI stuff - the deal the government are 'breaking the law' with is essentially to have a border at nobody other than the EUs behest. Really, Ireland are so in hock to the EU, they are the scapegoats. Whichever way the border/customs checks/virtual border/passport checks go in NI, one half of the population will be up in arms. The EU would rather have that to, once again, have the UK as the bad guys.
I have always gone along the lines of, if the EU want a border or checks let them do it. Perhaps they can send some Germans in to check everyone's papers?
It's not going to happen between Ireland/NI and Britain unless the EU force it. They may be able to force Ireland, who will find a way to weedle out of it - as they always do. But British borders are not going to happen, so basically the EU can posture all it likes. They will blame Britain, but if Britain say straight out right now that they won't do it no matter what, then the EU can do feck all about it. And it is them that will look bad.
In Ireland the media will go into overdrive about Britain's arrogance and intransigence. The man or woman on the street won't care though - as long as there is no border. Perhaps the EU could buy up some razor wire, border check points and guard huts? There's plenty laying unused around the place. But the demand is going to be rising for these products within a year or two.

 


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