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 Belmont  20 Feb 21 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Obviously not as it's a statistically based. All that is required is to compare it to other groups. The percentage of a percentage is irreverent in that regard. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 4.25pm) I think you need to make up your mind if its a statically based opinion the percentage of 3% is 100% of the black community so the percentage of a percentage is completely relevant. So which part of your logic above is true?
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| Stirlingsays 20 Feb 21 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I think you need to make up your mind if its a statically based opinion the percentage of 3% is 100% of the black community so the percentage of a percentage is completely relevant. So which part of your logic above is true? Make up my mind? What I stated was clear. The percentage of the percentage is only relevant in comparison to other groups. However, when it comes to violence I can safely predict....using stereotype that blacks will top that list. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 4.40pm)
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cryrst Online  The garden of England 20 Feb 21 4.43pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I didn't ask you if it bothered you I asked if it would be fair. All black kids or just the ones who carry them? Yes it's fair in your world I suppose, but you are black and I'm white. None of my friends carry knives, do any of yours?
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| Belmont 20 Feb 21 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Make up my mind? What I stated was clear. The percentage of the percentage is only relevant in comparison to other groups. However, when it comes to violence I can safely predict....using stereotype that blacks will top that list. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 4.40pm) So you jumped in answering a question for another poster not realising the point I was making was a general one comparing two groups? Best leave to the question for him to answer then. But just to be clear what you stated was contradictory especially as you didn't know what you were answering.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Feb 21 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
So you jumped in answering a question for another poster not realising the point I was making was a general one comparing two groups? Best leave to the question for him to answer then. But just to be clear what you stated was contradictory especially as you didn't know what you were answering.
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Surely it's more about so much crime being committed by members of such a small demographic. The disproportion is enormous and impossible to excuse away. If it was such a small proportion of that 3% then we could solve most violent crime by locking up a few dozen people. Belmont replied So you don't know the answer? If not are you are basing your stereotype on an opinion? I regard your responses as an attempt to deflect and little else. You know that all the statistics are against you and hence you want to obfuscate. However, if you don't want my input, fair enough, I'll drop out. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 4.57pm)
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| cryrst Online The garden of England 20 Feb 21 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
So you jumped in answering a question for another poster not realising the point I was making was a general one comparing two groups? Best leave to the question for him to answer then. But just to be clear what you stated was contradictory especially as you didn't know what you were answering. Google the facts; met police perpetrators of knife crime since 2008. A freedom of information request has been answered. You dont want the truth but it's there in print. 50% more blacks than whites knicked for knife crime in london. Total knife crime in the uk was 38% black people but 65% in london.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Feb 21 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Google the facts; met police perpetrators of knife crime since 2008. A freedom of information request has been answered. You dont want the truth but it's there in print. 50% more blacks than whites knicked for knife crime in london. Total knife crime in the uk was 38% black people but 65% in london.
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Attachment: | Belmont 20 Feb 21 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Surely it's more about so much crime being committed by members of such a small demographic. The disproportion is enormous and impossible to excuse away. If it was such a small proportion of that 3% then we could solve most violent crime by locking up a few dozen people. Belmont replied So you don't know the answer? If not are you are basing your stereotype on an opinion? I regard your responses as an attempt to deflect and little else. You know that all the statistics are against you and hence you want to obfuscate. However, if you don't want my input, fair enough, I'll drop out. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Feb 2021 4.57pm) I really don't have time to draw you a picture but can I suggest you read from when I first posted today gbut to help you out: Hrolf wrote this "I understand your logic but would argue that when members of a demographic which makes up only 3% of a population commits 80% of total violent crime, that would not have equivalence with 0.0001 percent of the White population being members of far right wing groups." I wrote this "Ok but if it's going to be a fair comparison what percentage of the total 3% actually commit those crimes?" I really don't know what you think you were answering but it wasn't any point I was making.
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| Belmont 20 Feb 21 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yes it's fair in your world I suppose, but you are black and I'm white. None of my friends carry knives, do any of yours? Err that's my point it's not fair and no they don't, did you actually read what I wrote?
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| Belmont 20 Feb 21 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Google the facts; met police perpetrators of knife crime since 2008. A freedom of information request has been answered. You dont want the truth but it's there in print. 50% more blacks than whites knicked for knife crime in london. Total knife crime in the uk was 38% black people but 65% in london.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Feb 21 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I really don't have time to draw you a picture but can I suggest you read from when I first posted today gbut to help you out: Hrolf wrote this "I understand your logic but would argue that when members of a demographic which makes up only 3% of a population commits 80% of total violent crime, that would not have equivalence with 0.0001 percent of the White population being members of far right wing groups." I wrote this "Ok but if it's going to be a fair comparison what percentage of the total 3% actually commit those crimes?" I really don't know what you think you were answering but it wasn't any point I was making. At no point was your commentary looking to compare two groups. I followed your discussion and frankly your summary is false and again just looking to obfuscate. If you stop responding to me I will drop out.
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| Belmont 20 Feb 21 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
At no point was your commentary looking to compare two groups. I followed your discussion and frankly your summary is false and again just looking to obfuscate. If you stop responding to me I will drop out. Err what???? The whole debate was about stereotyping and the fact I used the word comparison in your world means I wasn't comparing two groups. Are you sure you read it?
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