In time perhaps, but what usually happens is that most don't want to believe what is staring them in the face. It's more comfortable to believe that everything is as it should be and that they have not been fooled. Our egos don't like it.

The establishment will never admit it, and so all we will be left with is the testimony of people who will be deliberately discredited and the eternal doubt and unanswered questions for conspiracy theorists to debate.

Still persisting with this bollocks, are you?

I wish you no ill whatsoever, quite the opposite. Concerning that you’re still falling for all the nonsense even after QAnon was proved to be the absolute bollocks it so obviously always was. Just hope you’re not paying anyone to feed you this stuff.

You mean like your university was paid to feed you all that leftist bollocks that you similarly believe.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I find it sad that you get propped up by some who clearly believe that this stuff is nonsense, but view you as 'useful' because your fantasy doesn't interfere with their world view; searching for other targets instead. Hypocrites I believe they're called. At least you haven't bought into an active aversion to, or distancing from other races as a core component of your character though. You're not that far gone.

Everyone has a different way of viewing the world, but it can't be good to habitually buy into this stuff. Maybe a good start since you're looking to discuss would be to start with what you think the above clip shows? That there are two Hillary Clintons? What purpose do you think there would be to that? Isn't one already too many . You've done this with a couple of Biden clips too. Seemingly suggesting that they've either been 'replaced' or are in some way 'not human'. Is that an accurate description of what you're saying? Let me know.

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I understand your stance that the 'conspiracy theory' tag is sometimes used to mask actual nefarious activities (Epstein being a good example..and others..). But it doesn't follow that 'everything' that's out there has legitimacy to it. The varying degrees of how 'open minded' a person is can be used against them, and they can be intentionally used and exploited politically as I would say happened with QANON (and almost everybody to 'some' extent). I believe QANON was essentially hijacked to demonise some and make Trump appear like some kind of 'in the know' hero figure at the centre of it. It was cartoonish, and had a crazy grand finale, which doesn't bode well for the future. People were steered into believing this about someone who's clearly as self interested as the rest of them.

Perhaps for some it's more like a cross between conspiracy theory and entertainment, in that believing something that's a little out there but 'may' have a certain truth to it, is less interesting than the idea that something mindblowing and almost otherworldly is happening.

In the HRC clips I would say that she's suffering some kind of health situation (and was campaigning for President at the time I believe?) that would and in fact was seen as nationally embarrassing and damaging to her. As such they were trying to sneak her away. People can view things in other ways if they wish though of course. You always put your points whatever they are across politely, which is more than can be said for some; myself included sometimes! That's the main thing really.