You use words in a very strange way.

Excellent sentence Cryrst, I would only change the word 'strange' for dishonest.

The difference between someone like Jimmy Dore and WE is that....as much as I might disagree with some of his politics a person like Dore or indeed, Russell Brand actually values honesty.

They aren't prepared to accept lies as a means to an end just because it's their political tribe.

I think that principle is actually one that can unite people who might otherwise disagree on many other topics.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Binary political systems. they are designed to split opinion and keep the voters distracted.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

Those who defend Trump and his use, for instance, of terms like "fake news" to describe things that are demonstrably true, would do well to reflect on that quote.

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You express opinions. So do I. I don't describe you as dishonest. When I see specific untruths, I call them out, but I will say why I believe it to be the case.

You are very much like Trump in that you regard anyone who disagrees with you as a liar. For you, truth is what you believe is true.

Dore is a comedian who mines politics for his material. Brand is an attention seeker who likes to promote himself as above the swamp in which politicians have to exist.

To hold either up as paragons of virtue is itself dishonest, for they ultimately do what they do for their own benefit. Both are entertainers who need to keep an audience engaged to pay their bills.

I am no more in Biden's "tribe" than I am in any. My loyalty is, and always will be, to the wider issue of restoring decency and integrity both in politics and the wider world. That I believe that everything that Trump represents is the nadir of decency and integrity, it is unsurprising I oppose him and his brand of politics. That doesn't mean I support Biden. I will defend any decent politician, from either side.

What I detest is the current efforts of those on the right to try to establish some equivalency between Biden and Trump. Not only in competence, but also in terms of honesty. The truth is that Biden is pretty typical of the political world, needing sometimes to duck and dive, use deliberately obscure terminology etc. Trump though, is on another planet in terms of what he does.

If you regard Biden as a liar, then he plays on Mitcham Common whilst Trump has won the World Cup. It's just not comparable and there is no equivalence.

This propaganda is being deliberately spread. Who has designed it raises interesting questions, but those who help do it need to "hang their heads" in shame.

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A pyrotechnic display of logic chopping there. They haven’t expressed an opinion? It was literally a poll on opinions.
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