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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 Sep 21 11.04am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The 'silent majority' have been talked about for generations. Let history tell you just how effective they have been in ever stopping anything they were against.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2021 10.15am)

Amen to that.

Swap the word 'silent' for 'cowardly', and you get a more accurate description.

This trans s*** is lunacy. Absolute, full-on, madness. And yet people are silent about it? No. Shout out from the roof-tops about it. Refuse to even countenance it. Call it out for the 'Emperors New Clothes' BS it is.

Full-on degeneracy and yet again promoting utterly sterile and self-destructive lifestyles as something society need to celebrate.

Why do they want you all so cowed that you have to be silent with regards to these beyond insane attempts to re-write the core of what it means to be fully human?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 04 Sep 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

That's one belly laugh I had this morning.

For some fantasy and not experience comes with age.

The very idea that lines are drawn and kept to.....Are these people awake? Where have they been these last fifty years?

There have been majority opinions behind lots of positions and it's made no difference because the culture is driven from the top, not the bottom.....Matov is right and I'd add that it isn't important what people say, it's what they do....what they will actually get off their arses and do something about....but today, if that differs from the top it paints you as an extremist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2021 11.14am)

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 21 11.10am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not.

This kind of thing cannot be permitted, and no compromises are possible.

I expect the lines to be redrawn so that a sensible balance can be found which is acceptable to the majority. Those on the extremes, whether perverts or anti-lgbt activists, will just have to accept it.

Itís not going to happen when one groups feelings are regarded as inviolate whilst anotherís are demonised as bigotry.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 04 Sep 21 11.23am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's been noted that many social liberals/Egalitarians, while promoting a mostly unfettered lifestyle for others actually lead quite conservative lifestyles themselves.

While they will vote left, and often as left as possible, they aren't actually very liberal in their personal lives.

They aren't very self reflective or analyse what the practical statistical outcomes are for society at large...because their personal behaviours ensure that they aren't part of that decline.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2021 11.27am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 21 11.56am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Amen to that.

Swap the word 'silent' for 'cowardly', and you get a more accurate description.

This trans s*** is lunacy. Absolute, full-on, madness. And yet people are silent about it? No. Shout out from the roof-tops about it. Refuse to even countenance it. Call it out for the 'Emperors New Clothes' BS it is.

Full-on degeneracy and yet again promoting utterly sterile and self-destructive lifestyles as something society need to celebrate.

Why do they want you all so cowed that you have to be silent with regards to these beyond insane attempts to re-write the core of what it means to be fully human?

20 years ago, I might have agreed with you, but not now.

I have had recent experience within my own family. Not once, but twice. I can assure you it is neither "lunacy" nor "degeneracy"! It was a very difficult and exhausting situation for everyone involved, but eventually resulted in two people coming to terms with themselves and being happy. That has, in turn, brought everybody else closer.

In the past, I think both of those involved would have been unhappy, confused, ostracised and possibly suicidal.

I lost a nephew to suicide many years ago, when his family could not accept he was gay.

Celebration is not needed. Understanding and acceptance is enough.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 04 Sep 21 3.05pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Amen to that.

Swap the word 'silent' for 'cowardly', and you get a more accurate description.

This trans s*** is lunacy. Absolute, full-on, madness. And yet people are silent about it? No. Shout out from the roof-tops about it. Refuse to even countenance it. Call it out for the 'Emperors New Clothes' BS it is.

Full-on degeneracy and yet again promoting utterly sterile and self-destructive lifestyles as something society need to celebrate.

Why do they want you all so cowed that you have to be silent with regards to these beyond insane attempts to re-write the core of what it means to be fully human?

They are a silent majority because they don't want to be associated with loudmouth , racist, extreme right wing scumbags.

I'm not really so sure why you are so threatened by a man that wants to wear a dress?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 21 4.18pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

They are a silent majority because they don't want to be associated with loudmouth , racist, extreme right wing scumbags.

I'm not really so sure why you are so threatened by a man that wants to wear a dress?

How about if that same man wants to get changed next to your wife or daughter?
Iím not so sure how this is an issue of right or left.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 04 Sep 21 4.47pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I'm not really so sure why you are so threatened by a man that wants to wear a dress?

I don't know whether Alex Ferguson felt threatened by Beckham when he saw a picture in the paper of his star player wearing a dress, but I think it wasn't long afterwards that they parted company.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 04 Sep 21 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

How about if that same man wants to get changed next to your wife or daughter?
Iím not so sure how this is an issue of right or left.


He doesn't really have any arguments. His politics enable what he thinks is unacceptable. It's essentially impotence politics and why what's happening will just continue....totally useless.

All he has are what he thinks are insults to anyone who actually points that out.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

How about if that same man wants to get changed next to your wife or daughter?
Iím not so sure how this is an issue of right or left.

I've answered that Teddy. Read back, I made my view very cleary. Read back a couple of pages and you'll see it.

The biggest problem with a lot of these arguments that bigoted dinosaurs such as Stirling and Matov get involved and try and push their extreme hateful right wing views, and quash sensible conversation.

They don't really care about women's rights. They've state how they are at odds with femism in countless posts. But they are also anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-imigration, anti-anything but white.

Don't get me wrong. The far left go way to far on this issue.

Unfortunately, they live in that bitter world forever. Whilst claiming to support a multi-culteral team.

Their views and alignment with terrorist organisat PA is damaging for this website, and by association a damaging reflection on the club and it's fanbase.

Edited by jeeagles (04 Sep 2021 10.10pm)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 21 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I've answered that Teddy. Read back, I made my view very cleary. Read back a couple of pages and you'll see it.

The biggest problem with a lot of these arguments that bigoted dinosaurs such as Stirling and Matov get involved and try and push their extreme hateful right wing views, and quash sensible conversation.

They don't really care about women's rights. They've state how they are at odds with femism in countless posts. But they are also anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-imigration, anti-anything but white.

Don't get me wrong. The far left go way to far on this issue.

Unfortunately, they live in that bitter world forever. Whilst claiming to support a multi-culteral team.

Their views and alignment with terrorist organisat PA is damaging for this website, and by association a damaging reflection on the club and it's fanbase.

Edited by jeeagles (04 Sep 2021 10.10pm)

Apologies Jeeagles, you did. I missed that one.
As I said, I donít understand how anyoneís political opinion, be it left or right, has any bearing on this issue beyond providing an excuse to dismiss the other groupís opinion out of hand.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 04 Sep 21 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I've answered that Teddy. Read back, I made my view very cleary. Read back a couple of pages and you'll see it.

The biggest problem with a lot of these arguments that bigoted dinosaurs such as Stirling and Matov get involved and try and push their extreme hateful right wing views, and quash sensible conversation.

They don't really care about women's rights. They've state how they are at odds with femism in countless posts. But they are also anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-imigration, anti-anything but white.

Don't get me wrong. The far left go way to far on this issue.

Unfortunately, they live in that bitter world forever. Whilst claiming to support a multi-culteral team.

Their views and alignment with terrorist organisat PA is damaging for this website, and by association a damaging reflection on the club and it's fanbase.

Edited by jeeagles (04 Sep 2021 10.10pm)

You say you aren't 'far left', yet here you are using their buzzwords: that was a very bbs-like post.

As for your description about people you don't personally know. Ok, tell, me what I have said that proves I 'hate' any individual? Otherwise, you have just proven yourself a liar.

You don't have any answers other than to talk about 'extremism' and 'hate' and insults about opinions you disagree with. The 'hate' only appears to come from you, the apparent centrist.

You imply my position means I can't support non white people in a football team....that level of understanding is very rudimentary it was almost comic to read. I've supported CP for forty years, who the hell are you to suggest otherwise.

As for calling PA a 'terrorist organisation'? That's another lie. People can obviously make informed criticisms but that one is a lie as they don't support violence of any kind.

I suppose once someone starts lying it's easy to continue.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2021 12.33am)

 


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