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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 21 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't insist on it at all. I would be very happy to be responding to comments which acknowledge the truth and the real reasons why Brexit happened. It was a political stitch up from start to finish.

No political party thought it was in our best interests. The Tories only did it to bury the UKIP threat, putting party before country. For which they will never be forgiven by me. It was a disaster as it turned into a marketing campaign, selling our country's future like soap powder to the gullible.

Then there was the modern phenomenon of foreign interference via social media muddying the water.

Given all of that it was actually remarkable that it was still so close. It also confirmed my belief that decisions this important must only be taken by experts. Those we vote to represent us. What's the point of having people as our representatives if we then delegate power to people as devious as Dominic Cummings? Or Vladimir Putin.

Your delusional mind has no limits.
Is it possible to be more wrong than you?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 21 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Your delusional mind has no limits.
Is it possible to be more wrong than you?

It's extremely easy. Just go take a look in the mirror and the answer will stare you in the face.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 21 11.50pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's extremely easy. Just go take a look in the mirror and the answer will stare you in the face.

Na, that guy smarter and better looking than you.

You keep bleating about BREXIT and see where it gets you.

Or perhaps you could take your own advice and be realistic for a change.

 

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View Ghostship's Profile Ghostship Flag Norfolk 04 May 21 7.19am Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

Having seen the chaos the EU have caused with their vaccine policy this has been the most obvious reason I am glad we are out. Give it a few years and the whole lot will be gone other countries are already making noises about leaving after us and in my line of work I having spoken to several people from various European countries who said that we did the right thing and they too want their country to leave particularly Germany and Netherlands.

The EU is stuffed fall of failed politicians with enormous egos which has outgrown its true size. Had it been just a trading block only I would be happy for the UK to be a part of it but not something which tries to dictate our lives.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 04 May 21 7.34am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

Having seen the chaos the EU have caused with their vaccine policy this has been the most obvious reason I am glad we are out. Give it a few years and the whole lot will be gone other countries are already making noises about leaving after us and in my line of work I having spoken to several people from various European countries who said that we did the right thing and they too want their country to leave particularly Germany and Netherlands.

The EU is stuffed fall of failed politicians with enormous egos which has outgrown its true size. Had it been just a trading block only I would be happy for the UK to be a part of it but not something which tries to dictate our lives.

Germany vaccinated more than 1 million yesterday and will have vaccinated way more than half their population by the end of May. That's also while keeping their covid death rate per million at half that of the UK. What's better, a headline vaccination campaign with twice the death rate or quietly getting on with it while having half the death rate? That's also with having 8 porous land borders and no advantages of being an island with regards to international movement control. The UK's use of a vaccination campaign to advertise perceived advantages of brexit while ignoring the massive death rate is typical of the sleaze and endemic culture of lying that the current UK government has been pumping out for more than a year.

Edited by Orange1290 (04 May 2021 7.38am)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 May 21 7.37am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Germany vaccinated more than 1 million yesterday and will have vaccinated way more than half their population by the end of May. That's also while keeping their covid death rate per million at half that of the UK. What's better, a headline vaccination campaign with twice the death rate or quietly getting on with it while having half the death rate? That's also with having 8 porous land borders and no advantages of being an island with regards to international movement control.

Do they count the deaths in the same way as us?

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman

Do they count the deaths in the same way as us?

Probably much more thoroughly. Merkel is a qualified scientist. In comparison, what is Johnson qualified in apart from being a serial liar?

I would trust the numbers MUCH more from Germany than the UK based on the current administrations.


Edited by Orange1290 (04 May 2021 7.43am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 21 7.47am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Na, that guy smarter and better looking than you.

You keep bleating about BREXIT and see where it gets you.

Or perhaps you could take your own advice and be realistic for a change.

There has never been any "bleating"! Despair at the regressive attitudes of some people and disdain of their insistence it would all work out in the end. Yes to both. Where does it get me? In the same mess as everyone else but still with a determination to do all I can, modest though it may be, to mitigate the worst impacts in the time I have left. Not for me. It will make little or no difference to my life. For my family and the country I love.

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 04 May 21 7.53am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Germany vaccinated more than 1 million yesterday and will have vaccinated way more than half their population by the end of May. That's also while keeping their covid death rate per million at half that of the UK. What's better, a headline vaccination campaign with twice the death rate or quietly getting on with it while having half the death rate? That's also with having 8 porous land borders and no advantages of being an island with regards to international movement control. The UK's use of a vaccination campaign to advertise perceived advantages of brexit while ignoring the massive death rate is typical of the sleaze and endemic culture of lying that the current UK government has been pumping out for more than a year.

Edited by Orange1290 (04 May 2021 7.38am)

And France has vaccinated less than 16m and yet has a population of over 65m

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290

Probably much more thoroughly. Merkel is a qualified scientist. In comparison, what is Johnson qualified in apart from being a serial liar?

I would trust the numbers MUCH more from Germany than the UK based on the current administrations.


Edited by Orange1290 (04 May 2021 7.43am)

So you donít actually know! Donít let facts pass you by PP. In the UK anyone who died in hospital, for whatever reason, within 28 days of a positive COVID test, were counted as a COVID death.. fact


Edited by Spiderman (04 May 2021 8.01am)

Edited by Spiderman (04 May 2021 8.04am)

 

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

And France has vaccinated less than 16m and yet has a population of over 65m


And still has a death rate 20% less than that of the UK. It also has 5 porous land borders unlike the UK which can control it's international borders much more easily. What's more important, a faster vaccination campaign with more deaths or a slower one with a lower death rate?

 


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Originally posted by Spiderman

So you donít actually know! Donít let facts pass you by PP. In the UK anyone who died in hospital, for whatever reason, within 28 days of a positive COVID test, were counted as a COVID death.. fact


Edited by Spiderman (04 May 2021 8.01am)

Edited by Spiderman (04 May 2021 8.04am)


You don't know either, so we'll have to take the numbers from each country as they are, which shows Germany currently at half the covid death rate per million compared to that of the UK. Kind of fell into your own trap door there but I'm not surprised at that.

Germany also has a much, much larger health service capacity. For example, the UK has 150,000 beds, Germany 500,000 and that's for a population just 20% larger than that if the UK.


Edited by Orange1290 (04 May 2021 8.19am)

 


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