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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 May 21 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That was in response to comments about the number of immigrants in the country and the completely impractical desire to send them "home".

That's very different to a situation like Brexit which is one which could, in time, be reversed and in the meantime threatens the integrity of the United Kingdom.

I don't have any "gloom" over Brexit! I don't sit shedding tears into my coffee. I recognise the reality of where we are, despite believing it was a very stupid thing to do and one which was handled in a totally inappropriate way.

My efforts are 100% positive. If that means getting people to realise what a mistake it was, then that's a positive step towards correcting it.

So positivity is situation dependent.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 04 May 21 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


So what if I "don't live here"? I didn't realise this forum was only for UK residents only or did I miss that in the forum rules? I have experience from "living there" for years plus living elsewhere for years. I have friends and family in the UK who are angry and fed up with the flag waiving, vaccine nationalism, government lies and plenty of other related issues. So, someone disagrees with your opinion, live with it or stop posting comments.

Again you are way off the mark, where has anyone stated this forum is for UK residents only? Or have I missed something? It doesnít bother me if people disagree with my opinion, that is what discussion forums are all about. Maybe you should take your own advice.
I have stated on here mistakes were made but not only by the UK Government. IMO the handling of the vaccine programme has been extremely good, if that makes me a vaccine nationalist (?) so be it,

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 May 21 12.30pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Completely agree. Everything the bloke says is negative and confrontational. Turns up and picks arguments with posters.

I donít care if I agree or donít with people in here but to constantly argue is quite depressing.

Not Palace and not even in England any arguing is just with a troll. It's like me going on the Brighton forum and talking about politics. Why would I unless I was a total dick?

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 04 May 21 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Not Palace and not even in England any arguing is just with a troll. It's like me going on the Brighton forum and talking about politics. Why would I unless I was a total dick?

Spot on mate

 


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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 04 May 21 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That was in response to comments about the number of immigrants in the country and the completely impractical desire to send them "home".

That's very different to a situation like Brexit which is one which could, in time, be reversed and in the meantime threatens the integrity of the United Kingdom.

I don't have any "gloom" over Brexit! I don't sit shedding tears into my coffee. I recognise the reality of where we are, despite believing it was a very stupid thing to do and one which was handled in a totally inappropriate way.

My efforts are 100% positive. If that means getting people to realise what a mistake it was, then that's a positive step towards correcting it.

So, hereís the thing. You could be right about Brexit and any potential damage. You could, however, be wrong. That it was a mistake is your opinion and, for a variety of reasons, the true impact may not be seen for a number of years.
My problem with this whole Brexit thing is that some of those who voted remain arrogantly like to claim some bizarre intellectual moral high ground - as though they are educating the great unwashed - and that they feel the need to take it upon themselves to educate the Ďthickosí. Whereas leavers like to claim a bizarre victory and jump on anything we do well as a sign Brexit worked. Both attitudes are far more damaging to the UK than the vote, and itís time to move on.

To me, both sides were handled badly, both sides made mistakes and the vote should never really have happened. Cameron was probably one of our worst ever PMís.

But hereís a genuine question and I accept itís rhetorical. If the EU decided to set up an EU Army, with ships, troops, planes etc from every member state what would your reaction be? Would you support, accept and be in favour of this, as a natural direction of travel for what was a trading block? This is not a loaded question at all - I donít trust the EU and I do not trust their long term motives. (But I wouldnít have called a referendum if I was Cameron and Johnson is hardly a pillar of the community)!

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 04 May 21 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Not Palace and not even in England any arguing is just with a troll. It's like me going on the Brighton forum and talking about politics. Why would I unless I was a total dick?


Very well articulated and sums up my thoughts on the matter in about 4 paragraphs less than my comments!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 May 21 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Blimey even the BBC acknowledges that the NHS got the £350m (Brexit Intervention).

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One more point

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 May 21 2.51pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Blimey even the BBC acknowledges that the NHS got the £350m (Brexit Intervention).

[Link]

It doesn't say that at all, and it is in 2018 two years before brexit even happened.

A bit like your trade deals, either non-existent or spectacularly useless.

A trade deal is supposed to increase trade, not reduce it.


 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 May 21 2.59pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46


Very well articulated and sums up my thoughts on the matter in about 4 paragraphs less than my comments!

Not to worry mate. Was enjoying your posts. Well balanced.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 04 May 21 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It doesn't say that at all, and it is in 2018 two years before brexit even happened.

A bit like your trade deals, either non-existent or spectacularly useless.

A trade deal is supposed to increase trade, not reduce it.


Which is another problem with Brexit. People who wanted us to remain spent years asking where the £350m was, years before weíd even left - which always make me laugh. The whole thing was a joke from pretty much every angle and every argument was and is tailored to suit whatever argument and whatever side/agenda someone wants to pose at that particular moment in time.


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

It doesn't say that at all, and it is in 2018 two years before brexit even happened.

A bit like your trade deals, either non-existent or spectacularly useless.

A trade deal is supposed to increase trade, not reduce it.


When you say ďyour dealsĒ what do you mean? Are you not British? Or so ashamed you wish you werenít?

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 04 May 21 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Iím still interested in the answer to this question from someone that loves the EU and thinks anyone that voted leave is clearly the uneducated spawn of the devil :-

I do accept itís rhetorical. If the EU decided to set up an EU Army, with ships, troops, planes etc from every member state what would your reaction be? Would you support, accept and be in favour of this, as a natural direction of travel for what was a trading block? (With, for some weird reason, itís own flag).

Personally I donít trust the EU and I do not trust their long term motives. (But itís fair to say I wouldnít have called a referendum if I was Cameron and I accept that Johnson is hardly a pillar of the community)!

 

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