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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 May 21 9.02pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Surely as we have Brexited you should be rejoin as remain is no longer a thing.

Ha true. Want to join my party?

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not a traditional Leftist policy but one that the new Left seems to embrace.

We know the rich elites want it, but rich does not equal Right wing.

Yes these terms are all a bit anachronistic

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 May 21 9.09pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

People who are highly educated have no choice but to appear totally left wing in every aspect, particularly at academic institutions, otherwise they would either get the sack, get moved 'sideways' or be generally vilified for their 'racist' or 'fascist' views. One only has to look at the careers of people such as David Starkey or Douglas Murray. They've spoken out; they're going nowhere now.
I'm as educated as it gets, I have a sentence after my name. I have also worked my entire life. I have stepped down from academia due to the stifling atmosphere of censorship, on thought, speech and particularly research funding. On the odd occasion, I will critique some research (truthfully, so usually negatively), I write the odd bit of my own hobby stuff. However, as per the original post, and to answer the original question: I was born poor and was always Labour. I'm old Labour. I haven't voted for Labour since John Smith. I don't believe they represent the working class, or even equality. They highlight working class people's genuine concerns as 'fascist' or 'racist' rather than deal with those concerns. They champion immigrants without any consideration of the actual context. They highlight minority rights over the rights of everyone. The whole party is a joke. The left wing has been taken over by people who are basically the commintern for the few, not the many. The average person's view is 'bias' or 'prejudice' and literally everything is 'offensive'. There is no policy for the masses, they are actually anti-the British person. Who votes for their own hangman? You know the answer and are living in the consequences of that.
The only way Labour will ever win again will be a massive Tory cock up, most likely the economy. Unfortunately, there probably is a decent chance of that at some stage. Whether Labour can ever get their sh1t together, even then, is another question.

Blimey that's good.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 29 May 21 9.11pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm sure there are some people who are really pleased about that
My message to them would be, don't be too happy, it might be you next.
Who knows what next years wrong thinking will be.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 May 2021 12.18pm)

As much as it pains to agree we are indeed living in an age of the witch hunt

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 May 21 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

People who are highly educated have no choice but to appear totally left wing in every aspect, particularly at academic institutions, otherwise they would either get the sack, get moved 'sideways' or be generally vilified for their 'racist' or 'fascist' views. One only has to look at the careers of people such as David Starkey or Douglas Murray. They've spoken out; they're going nowhere now.
I'm as educated as it gets, I have a sentence after my name. I have also worked my entire life. I have stepped down from academia due to the stifling atmosphere of censorship, on thought, speech and particularly research funding. On the odd occasion, I will critique some research (truthfully, so usually negatively), I write the odd bit of my own hobby stuff. However, as per the original post, and to answer the original question: I was born poor and was always Labour. I'm old Labour. I haven't voted for Labour since John Smith. I don't believe they represent the working class, or even equality. They highlight working class people's genuine concerns as 'fascist' or 'racist' rather than deal with those concerns. They champion immigrants without any consideration of the actual context. They highlight minority rights over the rights of everyone. The whole party is a joke. The left wing has been taken over by people who are basically the commintern for the few, not the many. The average person's view is 'bias' or 'prejudice' and literally everything is 'offensive'. There is no policy for the masses, they are actually anti-the British person. Who votes for their own hangman? You know the answer and are living in the consequences of that.
The only way Labour will ever win again will be a massive Tory cock up, most likely the economy. Unfortunately, there probably is a decent chance of that at some stage. Whether Labour can ever get their sh1t together, even then, is another question.


If HOL had a post of the month then you just nailed it.

Spot on. Labour have actually turned against its own, the working class English.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 May 21 10.08pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

So I guess the big question for the right leaning voters on here is: which one are you - rich or thick?

and what are you Dan ? a paid lefty Troll or thick ?

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 May 21 10.43pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

People who are highly educated have no choice but to appear totally left wing in every aspect, particularly at academic institutions, otherwise they would either get the sack, get moved 'sideways' or be generally vilified for their 'racist' or 'fascist' views.

Ditto the Media, the Civil Service, the professions, and loads of other places

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 May 21 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

People who are highly educated have no choice but to appear totally left wing in every aspect, particularly at academic institutions, otherwise they would either get the sack, get moved 'sideways' or be generally vilified for their 'racist' or 'fascist' views. One only has to look at the careers of people such as David Starkey or Douglas Murray. They've spoken out; they're going nowhere now.
I'm as educated as it gets, I have a sentence after my name. I have also worked my entire life. I have stepped down from academia due to the stifling atmosphere of censorship, on thought, speech and particularly research funding. On the odd occasion, I will critique some research (truthfully, so usually negatively), I write the odd bit of my own hobby stuff. However, as per the original post, and to answer the original question: I was born poor and was always Labour. I'm old Labour. I haven't voted for Labour since John Smith. I don't believe they represent the working class, or even equality. They highlight working class people's genuine concerns as 'fascist' or 'racist' rather than deal with those concerns. They champion immigrants without any consideration of the actual context. They highlight minority rights over the rights of everyone. The whole party is a joke. The left wing has been taken over by people who are basically the commintern for the few, not the many. The average person's view is 'bias' or 'prejudice' and literally everything is 'offensive'. There is no policy for the masses, they are actually anti-the British person. Who votes for their own hangman? You know the answer and are living in the consequences of that.
The only way Labour will ever win again will be a massive Tory cock up, most likely the economy. Unfortunately, there probably is a decent chance of that at some stage. Whether Labour can ever get their sh1t together, even then, is another question.

I fear people will misinterpret this post. I agree with it but take a different stance.

Apparently Labour is the party of the ‘working class’. I make that around 14%.

So who speaks for the mass that supports progressive policies and cares about equality of opportunity? Certainly not the current government.

Labour focuses on noble causes, whether or not in truth they are deserving but doesn’t really currently speak for modern Britain.

Edited by Mapletree (29 May 2021 11.15pm)

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 May 21 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I fear people will misinterpret this post. I agree with it. Apparently Labour is the party of the ‘working class’. I make that around 14%.

So who speaks for the mass that supports progressive policies and cares about equality of opportunity? Certainly not the current government.

Love it. We are to thick to understand what he is saying. Love that.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 May 21 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Love it. We are to thick to understand what he is saying. Love that.

If the cap fits

But it wasn’t my point

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 30 May 21 1.04am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's well known that it was Blair who shifted Labour culturally towards that progressive neo liberal type...the 'champagne socialist' meme. So used to the greasy pole they keep a fiver in their boxer strap.

However, Labour are meant to be for the working class....the clue is kind of in the name.

But while they found success with Blair and 'New Labour', a large part of the grass roots hated themselves for it. So when the election victories stopped the knifes came out once Miliband changed the leadership rules.

However, the 'progressives', which make up the bulk of the Labour grass roots, don't really represent the bulk of the voting pool.....and slowly the normies came to realise that Labour were less interested in them than their ideological purities.

Now Labour are stuck with a leadership that can't win and a grass roots that doesn't want to change back to Blairism.

So Johnson will basically be in office for a long time,....Labour have more chance of a heart attack/stroke getting rid of him than they have of beating him in an election.

Something I predicted of Johnson before he became leader.....mind you I can't stand him either.

Eventually though, unless something dramatic happens, demographic change wins it for Labour....Just look at London for the evidence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 May 2021 1.11am)

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 30 May 21 4.26am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

"Labour focuses on noble causes"

Now that is some hilarious sh!t right there.

A non-deserving noble cause, WTF is that exactly

Are you posting from 1948 by some technical wizardry.

quote=Mapletree;3632625]

I fear people will misinterpret this post. I agree with it but take a different stance.

Apparently Labour is the party of the ‘working class’. I make that around 14%.

So who speaks for the mass that supports progressive policies and cares about equality of opportunity? Certainly not the current government.

Labour focuses on noble causes, whether or not in truth they are deserving but doesn’t really currently speak for modern Britain.

Edited by Mapletree (29 May 2021 11.15pm)

Edited by HKOwen (30 May 2021 4.27am)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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