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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Oct 21 3.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


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Same graph starting in 1963.

Basically shows Bert the Head is completely wrong, hardly a surprise there.

Yep, and that link has a useful graph showing how many percent of people in the UK population were born abroad which also is pretty damning. The jump from 1991 and 2010 is simply massive.

Makes you wonder where Bert got his points from.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2021 6.28pm)

 


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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 08 Oct 21 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, and that link has a useful graph showing how many percent of people in the UK population were born abroad which also is pretty damning. The jump from 1991 and 2010 is simply massive.

Makes you wonder where Bert got his points from.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2021 6.28pm)

It is a password protected site. So presumably Stirling has the password and can share so I can question what I'm reading. Otherwise you are just giving me statemetns on a bus.

Share the password and I'll happily respond you BREXIT fact unreality shapers; if I'm not queueing for petrol, searching for food or sitting in an interview for one of those great high wage jobs that demand I bring my own wellingtons.


 

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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 08 Oct 21 11.32pm Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

It's not my propaganda piece.

It is a news website and magazine based in Brussels.

I don't think the Tories have any editorial influence.

The point is that countries that did not leave the EU are suffering similar shortages , in this case HGV drivers, as the UK.

I am glad you haven't been sucked up, and if there is any insult regarding intelligence it's your inability to spell the word correctly.

OMG - I got into the site you posted saying "Basically shows Bert the Head is completely wrong, hardly a surprise there."

The site you refer to is run by Migration watch. Going to Migration Watch for stats on Migration is like asking in 1939 "Dear Mr Hitler do you think the Jews are beneficial to German Society" You are not going to get an answer that stands up to supporters of truth and decency fellas.


Please, please, please, question what you read. It will be better for everyone.

I've written to fact checker to see how the stats stand up and will post when I get an answer.

you are very very naughty boys with your pseudo "this is real stuff honest its like science" when its extremely biased bulls***.

I hope Boris doesn't ruin the Winterval festival for you boys, sitting by the Chimney thinking Santa is going to come down. He doesn't exist. You might think that is liberal woke tosh, but its the truth. Its hurt me to tell you that because part of me wants to wrap my arms around you fellas and protect you.

Also Churcill hated the working class and voted against the NHS many, many times.


 

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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 08 Oct 21 11.35pm Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


[Link]

Same graph starting in 1963.

Basically shows Bert the Head is completely wrong, hardly a surprise there.


OMG - I got into the site you posted saying "Basically shows Bert the Head is completely wrong, hardly a surprise there."

The site you refer to is run by Migration watch. Going to Migration Watch for stats on Migration is like asking in 1939 "Dear Mr Hitler do you think the Jews are beneficial to German Society" You are not going to get an answer that stands up to supporters of truth and decency fellas.


Please, please, please, question what you read. It will be better for everyone.

I've written to fact checker to see how the stats stand up and will post when I get an answer.

you are very very naughty boys with your pseudo "this is real stuff honest its like science" when its extremely biased bulls***.

I hope Boris doesn't ruin the Winterval festival for you boys, sitting by the Chimney thinking Santa is going to come down. He doesn't exist. You might think that is liberal woke tosh, but its the truth. Its hurt me to tell you that because part of me wants to wrap my arms around you fellas and protect you.

Also Churcill hated the working class and voted against the NHS many, many times.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Oct 21 1.06am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Bert the Head

It is a password protected site. So presumably Stirling has the password and can share so I can question what I'm reading. Otherwise you are just giving me statemetns on a bus.

Share the password and I'll happily respond you BREXIT fact unreality shapers; if I'm not queueing for petrol, searching for food or sitting in an interview for one of those great high wage jobs that demand I bring my own wellingtons.

A password protected site? What are you talking about?

It's a link straight through.

Respond to it and it would also be good if your backed up your previous statement about immigration being higher in the fifties.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 09 Oct 21 4.08am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Well the fuel 'crisis' is almost over. You know that massive problem that 99% of people got through OK. Storm in a teacup. More chaos was caused by those climate protesters.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Oct 21 7.45am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've tried to find stats on that but couldn't in the limited time I did it for.

However, it can be said that the post war immigration was controversial as is the argument that it was required....except for a low wage economy as I find your contention that it was for mostly union jobs point doubtful....in reality it would have been mixed along the lower wage employment areas.

Regardless the statistics for net immigration in the UK from 75 can be seen here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2021 2.32pm)


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

A rather more nuanced and objective interpretation of the statistics can be found here:-

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 09 Oct 21 12.42pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A rather more nuanced and objective interpretation of the statistics can be found here:-

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'nuanced' and 'objective', favourite words of the left used like squid ink to obscure the real issues.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Oct 21 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A rather more nuanced and objective interpretation of the statistics can be found here:-

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University of Oxford! Not biased at all then

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Edited by Spiderman (09 Oct 2021 3.30pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Oct 21 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Migration watch's statistics, I imagine come from governmental sources, I've seen those statistics quite a number of times now.

Apparently migration watch are something akin to Hitler (how often do we hear that) because they are against mass immigration.....so apparently they shouldn't be trusted.

But Bert can post lots of claims and not back them up....despite being asked to.

Mmmmm.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Oct 21 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I thought Migration Watch had a pretty good reputation I don't remember any mainstream politicians playing the race card with them.

I think they stick to facts that they know they can back up rather than the usual "bloody foreigners etc."


 


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